[PythonCAD] Consistency in operations in PythonCAD
Rafael Villar Burke
pachi at mmn-arquitectos.com
Tue Dec 13 18:37:27 CET 2005
Art Haas wrote:
>Hi.
>
>The recent discussion and patches regarding changing move operations to
>require first selecting the entities and then specifying the
>displacement(s) warrants more discussion. For move operations, I think
>that the proposed changes are worthwhile, but I'd like to hear from
>people familiar with other CAD packages, particularly AutoCAD, how
>similar operations are performed. Does the program require you to select
>entities first, or do you start some move command mode and then specify
>which entities will be moved? How about other operations like entity
>stretching or splitting?
>
>
AutoCAD lets you set an option to allow using noun/verb selection
(select and later tell what to do) instead of verb/noun selection. I
personally have that selection set all the time, as all people here in
the practice, and most architects I know.
This is what the AutoCAD help says about it:
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Noun/Verb Selection
Selects an object before invoking a command. The invoked command affects
the previously selected object or objects. You can also set this option
by using the PICKFIRST system variable.
You can use many editing and inquiry commands with noun/verb selection,
including
ALIGN DVIEW PROPERTIES
ARRAY ERASE ROTATE
BLOCK EXPLODE SCALE
CHANGE LIST STRETCH
CHPROP MIRROR WBLOCK
COPY MOVE
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I find it very useful when you need to select a big number of elements
and they are scattered around the drawing or you need to select and
unselect a lot of them and you won't repeat the operation (you unselect
some objects by pressing shift and using any of the selection methods).
Noun/verb selection is also useful when you want to left-click later on
the selection to use a context menu that displays less used commands or
those that you don't usually remember their accelerators or key
bindings, such as the display properties panel, filtered selection, xref
manager...
On the other hand, when I need to use the same command many times, I
tend to minimize mouse clicks using right click with no selected
entities, so as to the last command gets repeated and I can thereafter
choose which entities need to be modified.
Another nice feature is that you can select a group of objects just to
keep that selection in a "selection buffer", so you first select them,
later you change layer visibility, zoom factor or any other viewing
options or actions that don't need entity selection, and after you can
get back the previous selection when running a command (using p, for
previous, when you're asked to select some objects). This seems a bit
convoluted, but you can isolate some layers to have less visible
entities, select some of them amongst the visible ones, later turn on
the visibility of all layers and, for instance, move them using two
origin and destination reference points from a previously invisible layer.
The selection capabilities are not very well thought/exploited in
AutoCAD vs., for instance, 3DMax, where you can have named selections
that you are able to redefine easily. Probably the best thing would be
having an internal list of selected objects and use it to decide, when a
command is executed, whether noun/verb or normal selection must be used
depending on the emptiness of that list.
Wise use of named selections would avoid having to create a lot of
layers merely for drawing convenience.
>Please feel free to add comments about this, and also send in some
>reports about how other CAD packages handle operations like moving,
>splitting, mirroring, and changing the attributes of entities in
>a drawing.
>
>Art
>
>
Hope this comments help and keep the great work,
Rafael Villar Burke
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