Simple graphic library for beginners

[bartc]

On 11/01/2018 20:53, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 7:34 AM, bartc <bc at freeuk.com> wrote:

>> It failed on my 3.6, it failed on 3.4, it failed on 3.7 (is what 'pip' does
>> really so leading edge?), and finally worked on a brand-new 3.6.
> 
> In case you haven't figured it out by now, pygame has different builds
> to work with different versions. So what you're saying is:
> 
> "Wow, the pygame people are lazy idiots who haven't made things easy
> for me to use an unreleased version of Python. What a train-wreck
> Python is, when third-party packages aren't ready months in advance of
> a new release."

  "pygame for Python version 3.7 and later not ready."

or:

  "Can't find pygame distribution for Python 3.7."

If this works by accessing the right version of a .whl file, then it 
might guess something is amiss if there isn't one available for 3.7.

But the error message for 'pip install pygame' on 3.7 was roughly the 
same as on 3.4.

As I understand it, pygame is just another add-on, which doesn't 
inherently need to use .whl format, and which doesn't inherently need to 
use 'pip' package installer. I even saw somewhere that you needed to use 
'pip install wheel' in order to use .whl.

So there are two extraneous package systems to contend with, which 
themselves need to be the correct versions, before it can even start 
thinking about installing the product you really want.

And pygame itself, as I think was mentioned, is largely a wrapper around 
SDL. SDL for Windows can come prebuilt as a handful of .dll shared 
libraries. But a wrapper that presumably isn't written in Python, for 
the most part, according to the preponderance of .pyd modules. Its 
implementation is messy, and its distribution seems rather more 
elaborate (when the magic doesn't work and things go wrong) than is 
necessary.


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bartc