EuroPython 2006 and Py3.0

[Nick Vatamaniuc]

> The real problems with the Py3k list seem to be associated with a number
> of people who, despite having had little apparent connection to the
> language until now, have joined the list and started making
> inappropriate suggestions, which then have to be (patiently) rejected.

Steve,

What does a 'connection to the language' mean? Does it mean 'using' it
for years or 'being involved in its actual development' for years?  It
seems that sometimes a newcomer can actually bring in a fresh idea.
What new users think and what bothers them is actually important. The
reason Python became so popular is because it attracted so many new
users. If anyone has a reasonable suggestion, let them post it to this
group, see what the reaction is,  then let them write a proposal in the
right format using all the procedures and all.  Looking forward to
Python 3000 this is the time to do it. Rejections do take time but they
will just have to happen, out of 10 rejected maybe there will be one
good proposal that will make Python a little better.

-Nick V.

Steve Holden wrote:
> bearophileHUGS at lycos.com wrote:
> > Kay Schluehr:
> >
> >>there is nothing really new or interesting or challenging.
> >>Micro-optimizations and shape lifting.
> >
> >
> > I see. Maybe Python is becoming a commodity used by more than 10e6
> > persons, so changellenges aren't much fit anymore.
> > Guido has tried to avoid the problems of Perl6, making Py3.0 a
> > improvement and not a revolution. The good thing is that we'll probably
> > see a beta version in 14-18 months. Py3.0 from being like fantasy is
> > become something close, this is a good thing.
> > I may ask you what you would like to see in Py3.0, but remember that
> > your answer may become ignored by the developers.
> >
> The real problems with the Py3k list seem to be associated with a number
> of people who, despite having had little apparent connection to the
> language until now, have joined the list and started making
> inappropriate suggestions, which then have to be (patiently) rejected.
>
> regards
>   Steve
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