FW: Good IDE for Python

[Fred Allen]

Dear Michael,

I've searched fruitlessly for your recommended IDLE patch's download point. While I am probably only slightly slower than the average python programmer, I expect that others, no less witless than I, have had similar experience. Would you please post either explicit instructions by which I (we) can find the download. With thanks in advance, I am,

Gratefully,

Fred Allen

-----Original Message-----
From: Fuzzyman [mailto:michael at foord.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 8:35 AM
To: python-list at python.org
Subject: Re: Good IDE for Python

Grégoire Dooms <dooms at info.LESS.ucl.SPAM.ac.be> wrote in message news:<40cc1b05$0$41764$5fc3050 at dreader2.news.tiscali.nl>...
> Kamilche wrote:
> > I love Python, but I'm less than in love with IDLE. It's OK, but it
> > really doesn't have enough capabilities.
> > 
> > What I consider critical, are a popdown listing of all my functions,
> > colored syntax printing, and a right-click 'definition' context menu
> > that will hop you to the spot where that keyword is defined, if
> > possible. Everything else I could learn to do without, but these
> > features keep me hoping for a better IDE for Python.
> > 
> > I'm used to the Microsoft Visual C++ debugger, and though tooltip
> > variable debugging and intellisense were nice, they broke often enough
> > that you couldn't rely on them anyway, so I don't really need those
> > features.
> > 
> > I would also like the ability to create application 'forms' visually.
> > I'm on a Windows XP machine.
> > 
> > Any suggestions on what I should install next?
> 
> This patch to IDLE improves it a bit:
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=906702&group_id=5470&atid=305470
> 
> It adds among other things the pop-down function list.
> It's a little cumbersome to apply but the result is quite good.
> I've been using it for a few days and I'm quite happy with it.
> I may provide a patch against python 2.3.3 or another version if someone 
> is interrested.
> 
> If you are interresed, I made a smaller patch adding the qualified name 
> autocompletion (module.<Alt-/>functions). But the former patch does it 
> better (it even supports filename autocompletion).

This looks *very* interesting.
How do you apply a patch like this ?

Regards,

Fuzzy
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/atlantibots/pythonutils.html