[PyConUK-adm-priv] Cardiff Conference Wireless
Neil Stoker
neil at nmstoker.com
Fri Jun 24 07:59:44 EDT 2016
I couldn't make the call, so not sure if you covered this in detail
yesterday but here are a couple of thoughts:
I'm guessing this would be a technical challenge, as clearly you don't just
"flip a switch", but what are the prospects for making the website work
offline for the parts that would be of value to physically present
attendees? (a la Smashing Magazine did recently:
https://www.smashingmagazine.com/offline/ )
I think Peter's points all makes sense and seem the best option if we can't
get proper WiFi.
Everyone will be in different situations, but my suspicion is this will
matter to a lesser extent for casual mobile web access, but more for people
using laptops (esp if presenting something reliant on a connection).
Tethering may help for some, but I know it's not an official option on my
current contact (nor any I've ever had) even though it works the rare times
I've tried it briefly. Dongles might well work but will be an extra hassle
to manage.
It'll be crucial to encourage speakers to think up front about what they'd
do if their presentation didn't have a connection available (eg having some
sort of screen capture of any key interactive parts to hand). This is
probably good practice anyway, but will be more important if a connection
is likely to be shaky/unavailable.
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016, 10:35 Peter Inglesby, <peter.inglesby at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Craig,
>
> Thanks for following this up. Unfortunately, I think £13k is going to be
> a lot more than we can pay for.
>
> This means that we're going to have to plan for a low-wifi conference,
> which is a shame but not the end of the world. In particular, it means
> we'll have to:
>
> - clearly set expectations, and ask people to avoid using the wifi
> unless requied
> - encourage people to bring devices that they can tether from
> - get workshop leaders to make all their materials and setup
> instructions available in advance
> - buy dongles that we can give to speakers if required
> - maybe buy dongles that we can make available to delegates for short
> periods at the reception desck
>
> Anybody else: thoughts?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter.
>
> On 22 June 2016 at 22:23, Craig Barnes <craig at thebarneses.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>>
>> I forwarded your questions on today and gotten feedback, seems I was
>> missing the quote sheet previously.
>>
>>
>> https://maxwifi-nucleus.rarely.eu/Quotes/GuestQuote/1420?t=2E14DBB737BB4A70A090DFEC4575927F459A0EAA70F84DB1B9401394E926A8B1
>>
>> His responses to your questions are below.
>>
>> I expect this will likely be cost prohibitive.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> --
>>
>> I can’t see you needing more bandwidth than that, £3k will bring you in
>> 4 dishes. at 16Mb down and 4Mb up per dish. We can’t bond them but we
>> can balance the traffic over them so that should be fine.
>>
>> Note: The £3k is for the connectivity the second part of the quote for
>> £10 was to deliver everything else such as engineering, routers, AP’s,
>> switches and cabling.
>>
>> We have had no discussion with venue at the stage
>>
>> The dishes would only sited after a survey so it would be known that
>> they will work before hand.
>>
>> We can reduce the number of dishes and that would reduce the speed
>> available and of course have a negative impact on the user experience.
>> Its very difficult to provide a figure for bandwidth for an event as
>> there is no previous bench mark to work off. So we should make sure
>> that expectations are set before we agree a final number of dishes.
>>
>> Our event support engineer conducts live traffic shaping on-site to
>> ensure that nobody is hogging the bandwidth for non event related
>> activities such as iTunes or peer to peer activity.
>>
>> The sooner we receive the order the sooner we can proceed with the site
>> survey for dishes but Id suggest you talk to the venue first to check
>> they will allow us on the roof
>>
>> Richard Hughes
>> Director
>> Richard at maxwifi.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 08/06/16 09:07, Peter Inglesby wrote:
>> > Hi Craig,
>> >
>> > Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, and thanks for the nudge!
>> > (If anybody else is waiting on a reply from me, please give me a kick.)
>> >
>> > Having decent wifi at the conference feels like it's of pretty high
>> > priority, and I'd like us to find a way of paying for it.
>> > Unfortunately, it wasn't in the original budget, and while we have some
>> > contingency (and some reserves), we need to be sure that if we spend the
>> > money, it's a good investment.
>> >
>> > A handful of questions
>> >
>> > * Is the £3k an upper limit on what this would cost, or is that just
>> > for dishes on the roof?
>> > * Have we talked to City Hall about putting some dishes on their
>> > roof? Are they happy with the idea?
>> > * What would happen if we put some dishes on the roof, but it turned
>> > out they didn't work for some reason? Would we lose the money?
>> > * Could we get less good provision (but still better than what's
>> > currently there) for less money? That is, would two dishes be good
>> > enough?
>> > * Would maxwifi be able to help with things like traffic shaping?
>> > * When would maxwifi need us to confirm our order?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Peter.
>> >
>> > On 19 May 2016 at 23:30, Craig Barnes <craig at thebarneses.uk
>> > <mailto:craig at thebarneses.uk>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Richard at maxwifi has gotten back to me, with the following
>> comments.
>> >
>> > '''
>> > I have been doing some digging with regard to internet connectivity
>> and
>> > it does appear that its going to be problematic.
>> >
>> > The Broadband service is very poor and there are no point to point
>> > solutions that we can rely on. That means we have to use satellite
>> or
>> > 4G or even a mix of both.
>> >
>> > To that end we need access to the roof probably or a suitable site
>> to
>> > mount some dishes facing facing south.
>> >
>> > You are looking at around £750 per dish for connectivity and about
>> the
>> > same price for 4 sim 4g router.
>> >
>> > So I would assume you should allow £3k for connectivity top of the
>> > quote.
>> >
>> > Perhaps you can let know how that sits with you.
>> > '''
>> >
>> > At this point I have no indication of what is in the pot for this,
>> so
>> > any guidance would be appreciated.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Craig
>> >
>> >
>> > On 18/05/16 23:32, Craig Barnes wrote:
>> > >> > * Buying in provision from somebody like:
>> > >> > o http://www.get-me-connected.com/
>> > >> > o http://maxwifi.co.uk/
>> > >> I'll get in touch with them to see what options are
>> > available.
>> > >
>> > > Apologies for the delay on this, I've reached out to both of these
>> > > companies, and MaxWifi got back to me.
>> > >
>> > > I am expecting a budgetary estimate this week.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Cheers
>> > >
>> > > Craig
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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