[PyConUK-adm-priv] Cardiff Conference Wireless

Thu Jun 23 05:33:22 EDT 2016

Hi Craig,

Thanks for following this up.  Unfortunately, I think £13k is going to be a
lot more than we can pay for.

This means that we're going to have to plan for a low-wifi conference,
which is a shame but not the end of the world.  In particular, it means
we'll have to:

   - clearly set expectations, and ask people to avoid using the wifi
   unless requied
   - encourage people to bring devices that they can tether from
   - get workshop leaders to make all their materials and setup
   instructions available in advance
   - buy dongles that we can give to speakers if required
   - maybe buy dongles that we can make available to delegates for short
   periods at the reception desck

Anybody else: thoughts?

Cheers,

Peter.

On 22 June 2016 at 22:23, Craig Barnes <craig at thebarneses.uk> wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
>
> I forwarded your questions on today and gotten feedback,  seems I was
> missing the quote sheet previously.
>
>
> https://maxwifi-nucleus.rarely.eu/Quotes/GuestQuote/1420?t=2E14DBB737BB4A70A090DFEC4575927F459A0EAA70F84DB1B9401394E926A8B1
>
> His responses to your questions are below.
>
> I expect this will likely be cost prohibitive.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Craig
>
> --
>
> I can’t see you needing more bandwidth than that, £3k will bring you in
> 4 dishes. at 16Mb down and 4Mb up per dish.  We can’t bond them but we
> can balance the traffic over them so that should be fine.
>
> Note:  The £3k is for the connectivity the second part of the quote for
> £10 was to deliver everything else such as engineering, routers, AP’s,
> switches and cabling.
>
> We have had no discussion with venue at the stage
>
> The dishes would only sited after a survey so it would be known that
> they will work before hand.
>
> We can reduce the number of dishes and that would reduce the speed
> available and of course have a negative impact on the user experience.
> Its very difficult to provide a figure for bandwidth for an event as
> there is no previous bench mark to work off.  So we should make sure
> that expectations are set before we agree a final number of dishes.
>
> Our event support engineer conducts live traffic shaping on-site to
> ensure that nobody is hogging the bandwidth for non event related
> activities such as iTunes or peer to peer activity.
>
> The sooner we receive the order the sooner we can proceed with the site
> survey for dishes but Id suggest you talk to the venue first to check
> they will allow us on the roof
>
> Richard Hughes
> Director
> Richard at maxwifi.co.uk
>
>
>
>
>
> On 08/06/16 09:07, Peter Inglesby wrote:
> > Hi Craig,
> >
> > Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, and thanks for the nudge!
> >  (If anybody else is waiting on a reply from me, please give me a kick.)
> >
> > Having decent wifi at the conference feels like it's of pretty high
> > priority, and I'd like us to find a way of paying for it.
> > Unfortunately, it wasn't in the original budget, and while we have some
> > contingency (and some reserves), we need to be sure that if we spend the
> > money, it's a good investment.
> >
> > A handful of questions
> >
> >   * Is the £3k an upper limit on what this would cost, or is that just
> >     for dishes on the roof?
> >   * Have we talked to City Hall about putting some dishes on their
> >     roof?  Are they happy with the idea?
> >   * What would happen if we put some dishes on the roof, but it turned
> >     out they didn't work for some reason?  Would we lose the money?
> >   * Could we get less good provision (but still better than what's
> >     currently there) for less money?  That is, would two dishes be good
> >     enough?
> >   * Would maxwifi be able to help with things like traffic shaping?
> >   * When would maxwifi need us to confirm our order?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Peter.
> >
> > On 19 May 2016 at 23:30, Craig Barnes <craig at thebarneses.uk
> > <mailto:craig at thebarneses.uk>> wrote:
> >
> >     Richard at maxwifi has gotten back to me, with the following
> comments.
> >
> >     '''
> >     I have been doing some digging with regard to internet connectivity
> and
> >     it does appear that its going to be problematic.
> >
> >     The Broadband service is very poor and there are no point to point
> >     solutions that we can rely on.  That means we have to use satellite
> or
> >     4G or even a mix of both.
> >
> >     To that end we need access to the roof probably or a suitable site to
> >     mount some dishes facing facing south.
> >
> >     You are looking at around £750 per dish for connectivity and about
> the
> >     same price for  4 sim 4g router.
> >
> >     So I would assume you should allow £3k for connectivity top of the
> >     quote.
> >
> >     Perhaps you can let know how that sits with you.
> >     '''
> >
> >     At this point I have no indication of what is in the pot for this, so
> >     any guidance would be appreciated.
> >
> >     Regards
> >
> >     Craig
> >
> >
> >     On 18/05/16 23:32, Craig Barnes wrote:
> >     >>         >   * Buying in provision from somebody like:
> >     >>         >       o http://www.get-me-connected.com/
> >     >>         >       o http://maxwifi.co.uk/
> >     >>         I'll get in touch with them to see what options are
> >     available.
> >     >
> >     > Apologies for the delay on this, I've reached out to both of these
> >     > companies, and MaxWifi got back to me.
> >     >
> >     > I am expecting a budgetary estimate this week.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Cheers
> >     >
> >     > Craig
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
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