[Mailman-Users] Off topic, how to get in verizon.net's good graces?

[Arlen Raasch]

Oh, and Steve, I have been using mxtoolbox for some time.  Great tool.
They think our mail server is the man, as in "You da man!".

I got a verizon.net account to use to test against, and could send outbound
emails from it to my gmail account fine.  But, verizon.net even rejected
emails from my gmail account, not through any relay!  I also whitelisted
the relay domain inside the web interface for the verizon.net test account
to see if I could get one email through to inspect.  No dice!

Verizon must have its shields set to ludicrous.

I think I have had enough and will email the subscribers using still
attempting to use verizon.net to find a provider who cares tomorrow.

Thanks again,

Arlen Raasch

On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Arlen Raasch <araasch at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, I am glad (in a way) to hear that its not just me.
>
> By the way, I learned that Verizon does not issue verizon.net accounts to
> its new landline customers.  It seems they don't want to compete with AOL,
> which they now own.
>
> As such, it may be that few company resources are assigned to handling
> such stuff inside what remains of the deprecated verizon.net company.
>
> Arlen Raasch
>
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> wrote:
>
>> On 04/03/2016 07:06 PM, Arlen Raasch wrote:
>> >
>> > We moved to a new server, ...
>> >
>> > But, try as we may verizon.net still refuses to talk to our servers
>> except
>> > to say it is rejecting our messages.
>> ...
>> > I have submitted multiple whitelist requests as shown above, and have
>> seen
>> > no response whatsoever from Verizon.  Frustrating.  This has been going
>> on
>> > for 5 days now.
>>
>>
>> I'm sorry to say, welcome to the club.
>>
>> This has been going on for 5 months since the old mail.python.org server
>> died and was replaced late last October.
>>
>>
>> > I am about to send emails out directly to our list subscribers asking
>> them
>> > to migrate to another email provider, but thought I would ask the list
>> if
>> > anyone else had any success with verizon.net and how they did it.
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure what the current status is with mail.python.org. We haven't
>> seen any Mailman list bounces since mid January. Maybe everyone got
>> unsubscribed by bounce processing. I thought we had actually done
>> something to stop sending to verizon.net, but I can't find anything (if
>> it was done, I didn't do it).
>>
>> Good luck, and if anyone has a way to actually contact Verizon other
>> than by submitting forms to an apparent black hole, please let us know.
>>
>> --
>> Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
>> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
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