[Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?

Mark Lawrence breamoreboy at yahoo.co.uk
Sat Jul 5 20:53:48 CEST 2014


On 05/07/2014 19:40, Deb Wyatt wrote:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: breamoreboy at yahoo.co.uk
>> Sent: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 19:26:41 +0100
>> To: tutor at python.org
>> Subject: Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?
>>
>> On 05/07/2014 18:31, Deb Wyatt wrote:
>>> I am betting that a big reason newbies don't go straight to
>>> documentation for answers is because of the useless quick search.  You
>>> should be able to type 'dictionary' and get links to the dictionary
>>> info.  You get a bunch of links that are meaningless to someone who
>>> wants to learn about how to use dictionaries.  It frustrates me to death
>>> when I want to look up a detail about how a particular function works
>>> and I can't find it because quick search doesn't provide the link to the
>>> BASIC information.
>>>
>>> Another example of what I am talking about, I just did a search of
>>> max(), a BUILT-IN function.  This is what quick search gives me:
>>>
>>> Your search did not match any documents. Please make sure that all words
>>> are spelled correctly and that you've selected enough categories.
>>>
>>> What is up with that???
>>>
>>> I realize that this list doesn't have control over python.org, but there
>>> are enough of you who are experts about all this stuff that maybe some
>>> changes can be made.  If I ever learn enough, I hope to be part of the
>>> solution myself.  A working search engine would be most helpful.
>>>
>>> Yes, I use Google all that time. But quick search should be useful.
>>> Thanks in advance for any insights and help.
>>>
>>>
>>> Deb in WA, USA
>>>
>>
>> It's known to be useless so don't bother, use a google site specific
>> search instead.
>>
>> Aside, your paragraphs are on one line, hope you're not using the
>> dreaded google groups? :)
>>
>> --
>> My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
>> what you can do for our language.
>>
>> Mark Lawrence
>>
>
> It shouldn't be useless.
>
> No I'm NOT using goggle groups.  I'd be using a news reader if accessing
> news was still free.  I'm just using an on-line email provider with text only,
> and a subscription to the group.  I was not aware that Python Tutor was
> even available in Google groups...
>
> Hey, what you can do for your language is help make the search useful.
>
> Deb in WA, USA
>

As I said it's a known problem, but then so are the 4600 bugs at 
bugs.python.org.  So why bother spending the time making the search 
useful when there is a well known workaround, I prefer my time to go on 
the bug tracker.

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask 
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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