[Pythonedu-wg] Pythonedu-wg Digest, Vol 3, Issue 10

[Dave Ames]

On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 at 19:08 Ian Harcombe <ian.harcombe at gmail.com> wrote:

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Dave Ames <david.john.ames at gmail.com>
>> To: "Nicholas H.Tollervey" <ntoll at ntoll.org>, pythonedu-wg at python.org
>> Cc:
>> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 23:48:06 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [Pythonedu-wg] A new, kid-friendly Python editor
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 20:50 Nicholas H.Tollervey <ntoll at ntoll.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 22/09/15 17:46, Dave Ames wrote:
>> > I would suspect that (rightly or wrongly) most school network
>> > technicians would be extremely wary of giving students access to a
>> > system shell of any kind.
>> >
>>
>> Then most school network technicians are fools and should not have ANY
>> input in such decisions.
>>
>> NOTE: I'm highly biased about this. ;-)
>>
>> N.
>>
>> Absolutely no disagreement from me there. If they've configured
>> everything correctly then access to the command line for students, should
>> present absolutely no threat to the network. But!
>>
>> The default state is "no command line", even though access to Python/Idle
>> probably gives them at least the same level (if not more) of danger.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
> While that's all fine and dandy, students can be very creative (they
> should, if we've taught them well) and some hacks are fairly easy to
> research and attempt in a school environment; but the results can be
> disastrous and inconvenience more than just a few people.
>
> Mind you, having said that, once you have Python installed it is an
> absolute no-brainer to quickly Google how to run a system command from the
> interactive shell (as I did last week, to try and help our tech support get
> PyGame Zero installed) and then the presence or absence of the Windows
> Command Shell is a non-issue...
>
> ---
> Ian Harcombe
>

Were you able to get it installed? I ran a workshop using PGZero yesterday
at our CAS Regional Conference and discussed the fact that by default none
of the teacher had access to the Command Line on their networks.

Cheers
Dave Ames
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