[Python-ideas] Top 10 Python modules that need a redesign Was: Geo coordinates conversion in stdlib

[anatoly techtonik]

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Alexander Belopolsky <
alexander.belopolsky at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 10:54 AM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Where have you been when PEP 3108 was discussed?  I have not seen any
>>> other list of Python modules that needed a redesign, so I cannot tell
>>> what's on your top ten list.
>>>
>>
>> http://sayspy.blogspot.com/2009/07/informal-poll-what-python-stdlib.html
>>
>
> Interesting.  I did not see this back in the day.  The top entry (urllib
> and friends) makes sense and there were heavily redesigned in Python 3.  I
> am surprised that distutils redesign got less support than logging and
> datetime.  I suspect that this may have to do with logging and datetime
> APIs not being PEP8 compliant.  Popular votes tend to exaggerate the
> importance of trivial things such as the spelling of class and method names
> and brush off more subtle, but important design flaws.
>

I don't think PEP8 matters at all. Python is not PHP - it has namespaces
and consistency between modules never was so important issue for me at
least, and I am pretty picky. But it is only a guess. I let data change my
mind if there will be some.

My theory is that these modules are just full of warts for specific but
very common scenarios. Here is something that can be used as an example
that it is not about PEP8
https://code.google.com/p/rainforce/wiki/WartsOfPython#measure_time And it
takes a lot of energy to collect something like that for the reference.
Usually you're just left a feeling that something suxx and this feeling is
reinforced every time you hit the wart again and again. It's like AI
learning.
-- 
anatoly t.
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