[pypy-dev] Question

Phyo Arkar phyo.arkarlwin at gmail.com
Thu Jun 11 22:00:43 CEST 2015 

use easy_install

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:47 AM, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:

> I tried that now. It wouldn't run `get-pip.py`. Says "Could not find a
> version that satisfies the requirement pip (from versions: )
> No matching distribution found for pip"
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Phyo Arkar <phyo.arkarlwin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It is just Download , extract , Run, and have fun.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Phyo Arkar <phyo.arkarlwin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Have you tried portable pypy ?
>>> https://github.com/squeaky-pl/portable-pypy
>>> it works for me , in every linuxes.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:42 AM, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When you use the ppa, where will nosetests be located?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pypy/ppa
>>>>> sudo apt-get update
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On June 11, 2015 1:54:55 PM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no idea how to use the PyPy PPA. (Not a Linux user here.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Randall Leeds <
>>>>>> randall.leeds at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The PyPy PPA works brilliantly on 15.04 for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From there I just make a virtualenv with:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $ virtualenv -P /usr/bin/pypy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Can't remember if it's -P or -p)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once activated, just running pip works fine for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, 11:49 Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Against my better judgement, I tried following your advice :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Got this error when running make:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [translation:ERROR] CompilationError: CompilationError(err="""
>>>>>>>> [translation:ERROR] /tmp/usession-release-2.6.0-0/platcheck_23.c:79:18:
>>>>>>>> fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory
>>>>>>>> [translation:ERROR]  #include <zlib.h>
>>>>>>>> [translation:ERROR]                   ^
>>>>>>>> [translation:ERROR] compilation terminated.
>>>>>>>> [translation:ERROR] """)
>>>>>>>> [translation] start debugger...
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> /home/ubuntu/Desktop/pypy-2.6.0-src/rpython/rtyper/tool/rffi_platform.py(834)configure_external_library()
>>>>>>>> -> raise last_error
>>>>>>>> (Pdb+)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not
>>>>>>>>>> even Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain
>>>>>>>>>> in the everything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was
>>>>>>>>>> actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to
>>>>>>>>>> know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython
>>>>>>>>>> would be suicide.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be
>>>>>>>>>>> errors that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting
>>>>>>>>>>> another hour trying to deal with those.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making
>>>>>>>>>>> PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more
>>>>>>>>>>> effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why
>>>>>>>>>>> isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> just ranting.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If
>>>>>>>>>>>> you're on Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that
>>>>>>>>>>>> *work* for you to try.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> message to python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work on scripts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've given up at this point. Thanks for your help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rymg19 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works for some other Python packages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> romain.py at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pypy -m pip works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  something like this in my .bashr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  c:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  # Laziness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  # it was either that or:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  y-c"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  windows).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  site-packages I believe (just like on cpython)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Things I don't care about so much right now:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - How fast PyPy runs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Things I care a lot about right now:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *  -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com <rymg19 at gmail.com>> wrote: Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com <ram at rachum.com>> wrote: When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py <http://get-pip.py> , how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?------------------------------ pypy-dev mai
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>>>>>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than
>>>>>>>>>>>> your program. Something’s wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>>>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than
>>>>>>>>>> your program. Something’s wrong.
>>>>>>>>>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than
>>>>>>>>> your program. Something’s wrong.
>>>>>>>>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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