[pypy-dev] Question

Ram Rachum ram at rachum.com
Thu Jun 11 21:17:58 CEST 2015 

I tried that now. It wouldn't run `get-pip.py`. Says "Could not find a
version that satisfies the requirement pip (from versions: )
No matching distribution found for pip"

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Phyo Arkar <phyo.arkarlwin at gmail.com>
wrote:

> It is just Download , extract , Run, and have fun.
>
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Phyo Arkar <phyo.arkarlwin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Have you tried portable pypy ?
>> https://github.com/squeaky-pl/portable-pypy
>> it works for me , in every linuxes.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:42 AM, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>
>>> When you use the ppa, where will nosetests be located?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pypy/ppa
>>>> sudo apt-get update
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On June 11, 2015 1:54:55 PM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no idea how to use the PyPy PPA. (Not a Linux user here.)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Randall Leeds <
>>>>> randall.leeds at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The PyPy PPA works brilliantly on 15.04 for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From there I just make a virtualenv with:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $ virtualenv -P /usr/bin/pypy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Can't remember if it's -P or -p)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once activated, just running pip works fine for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, 11:49 Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Against my better judgement, I tried following your advice :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Got this error when running make:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [translation:ERROR] CompilationError: CompilationError(err="""
>>>>>>> [translation:ERROR] /tmp/usession-release-2.6.0-0/platcheck_23.c:79:18:
>>>>>>> fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory
>>>>>>> [translation:ERROR]  #include <zlib.h>
>>>>>>> [translation:ERROR]                   ^
>>>>>>> [translation:ERROR] compilation terminated.
>>>>>>> [translation:ERROR] """)
>>>>>>> [translation] start debugger...
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> /home/ubuntu/Desktop/pypy-2.6.0-src/rpython/rtyper/tool/rffi_platform.py(834)configure_external_library()
>>>>>>> -> raise last_error
>>>>>>> (Pdb+)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not
>>>>>>>>> even Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain
>>>>>>>>> in the everything.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was
>>>>>>>>> actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to
>>>>>>>>> know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython
>>>>>>>>> would be suicide.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors
>>>>>>>>>> that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting
>>>>>>>>>> another hour trying to deal with those.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making
>>>>>>>>>> PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more
>>>>>>>>>> effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why
>>>>>>>>>> isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm
>>>>>>>>>> just ranting.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're
>>>>>>>>>>> on Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for
>>>>>>>>>>> you to try.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a
>>>>>>>>>>>> message to python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to
>>>>>>>>>>>> work on scripts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've
>>>>>>>>>>>> given up at this point. Thanks for your help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <
>>>>>>>>>>>> rymg19 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> works for some other Python packages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py
>>>>>>>>>>>>> @gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pypy -m pip works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  something like this in my .bashr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  c:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  # Laziness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  # it was either that or:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  y-c"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  windows).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  site-packages I believe (just like on cpython)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Things I don't care about so much right now:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   - How fast PyPy runs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Things I care a lot about right now:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *  -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19 at gmail.com <rymg19 at gmail.com>> wrote: Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram at rachum.com <ram at rachum.com>> wrote: When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py <http://get-pip.py> , how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?------------------------------ pypy-dev mai
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>>>>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than
>>>>>>>>>>> your program. Something’s wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than
>>>>>>>>> your program. Something’s wrong.
>>>>>>>>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than
>>>>>>>> your program. Something’s wrong.
>>>>>>>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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