[Overload-sig] Gmane may be shutting down

Brett Cannon brett at python.org
Thu Jul 28 15:16:10 EDT 2016


I'm going to stop myself from replying because this is already veering
off-topic for this mailing list. If you would like answers to your
questions, Kevin, feel free to email me off-list.

On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 at 12:11 Kevin Ollivier <kevin-lists at theolliviers.com>
wrote:

>
> On 7/28/16, 11:31 AM, "Overload-sig on behalf of Guido van Rossum"
> <overload-sig-bounces+kevin-lists=theolliviers.com at python.org on behalf
> of guido at python.org> wrote:
>
> >Oh, man! :-(
> >
> >It's the tragedy of the commons. The ReadTheDocs team is close to
> >burn-out too, as is of course our own Donald "PyPI is not my middle
> >name" Stufft.
> >
> >Companies using open source really need to take care better of their
> >infrastructure, and we can't always look at Google or Mozilla.
>
> Has Python ever dabbled with a sort of Red Hat like support contract
> system, say custom development services, e.g. optimization and debugging
> assistance?
>


>
> I will say that until I joined these lists I really had no idea that PyPI
> largely (completely?) has fallen on the shoulders of one guy. :( Given the
> size of Python and PyPI, I would never have guessed that, though if it's
> any consolation to Donald, it does sort of make him a superhero. :)
> Honestly, after this major upcoming Nov. 1st deadline I have for my
> educational startup, if I haven't gone broke ;) , I'd be happy to
> contribute money, time or both. It's insane that something relied upon by
> so many has so few resources devoted to it.
>
> Anyway, as it was in my case, I suspect part of the problem is one of
> awareness. I'm fairly certain with PyPI that a large number of people who
> could afford to pay would have real problems if it went away. Maybe blowing
> the horn would help? Do one of those Wikipedia-like drives on the PyPI
> index or Python itself?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
> >On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Brett Cannon <brett at python.org> wrote:
> >> Looks like the maintainer is burning out:
> >> https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/
> >>
> >> If gmane is shut down it will impact the accessibility of our MM2 lists
> I
> >> suspect as gmane seems to be popular enough, so our work may have just
> >> become a bit more important.
> >>
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