[Microbit-Python] A native editor
Nicholas H.Tollervey
ntoll at ntoll.org
Mon Dec 7 04:40:51 EST 2015
Hah!
Not Puppy the PHP framework.
Puppy is a Python editor for kids. It's written in Python with QT as the
UI framework.
;-)
N.
On 07/12/15 09:34, Carlos P.A. wrote:
>> In an ideal world we'd have just a static .exe for Windows that gave us
>> something functionally equivalent to what I've done already. I might
>>take a look at some of the Puppy work myself, Dan Pope and Damien did to
>> see if this is possible.
>
> Puppy the PHP framework? If we are okay with pivoting tech at this
> point, might I suggest Electron using node.js? I've used it to pack web
> app applications for desktop (windows, mac, linux and even arm linux)
> and will definitely work for this kind of requirements. You can create
> executables or have them as a "portable apps", which could then probably
> be packed into a single .exe file for windows. The only downside is the
> application size might not be all that small, as it packs the chromium
> embedded engine with it (so > 50Mbs compressed).
>
> On 7 December 2015 at 09:13, Nicholas H.Tollervey <ntoll at ntoll.org
> <mailto:ntoll at ntoll.org>> wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> None of this is documented, it's unfinished and is basically a working
> brain dump. Give me some time to write up what I've done..! (I was doing
> this most evening's last week and over the weekend. By Sunday evening I
> was sick of the site of the damn thing - especially after most of the
> time I'd spent on it was wasted on the non-working USB API).
>
> I'll get to it, but in the meantime:
>
> This will be a Chrome App that you download and install from Google's
> "App Store" thingamabob for Chrome Apps. When you download the app
> you'll be walked through the permissions required (that you accept or
> decline). I'm doing my work on Debian Jessie and it worked for me. This
> is a very important user journey, but one that I can't test until we
> have something semi-functional telling us what the permissions need to
> be (currently, storage, serial and filesystem).
>
> I'm using Google's "Chrome Dev Editor" to do this work
> (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chrome-dev-editor-develop/pnoffddplpippgcfjdhbmhkofpnaalpg).
> I suggest you use it too.
>
> Like I said... a very early brain dump.
>
> In an ideal world we'd have just a static .exe for Windows that gave us
> something functionally equivalent to what I've done already. I might
> take a look at some of the Puppy work myself, Dan Pope and Damien did to
> see if this is possible.
>
> Basically, all the amazing work on MicroPython should be easily
> accessible. Teachers have a bad time of it. I want to fix that problem
> and I'm doing so in public so those who want to help can dive in.
>
> N.
>
> On 06/12/15 23:13, Naomi Ceder wrote:
> > Tom, use the entire base directory as the unpacked extension - that
> > worked for me.
> >
> > Naomi
> >
> > On 6 December 2015 at 17:11, Tom Viner <tom at viner.tv <mailto:tom at viner.tv>
> > <mailto:tom at viner.tv <mailto:tom at viner.tv>>> wrote:
> >
> > I'm opening python-native-editor/index.html in Chrome and I don't
> > see how to get any extension (and there doesn't appear to be
> > unpacked extension to load in developer
> > <https://developer.chrome.com/extensions/getstarted#unpacked> mode
> > either).
> >
> > I just get:
> > repl.js:75 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'sync' of undefined
> >
> > on the line:
> > hterm.defaultStorage = new lib.Storage.Chrome(chrome.storage.sync);
> >
> > On 6 December 2015 at 22:53, Naomi Ceder <naomi.ceder at gmail.com <mailto:naomi.ceder at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:naomi.ceder at gmail.com <mailto:naomi.ceder at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Ooops! My apologies! I see from looking at the code that new,
> > open and save are not yet implemented, just stubbed out, it
> > appears.
> >
> > I misunderstood that. Never mind.
> >
> > Naomi
> >
> > On 6 December 2015 at 16:43, Naomi Ceder <naomi.ceder at gmail.com <mailto:naomi.ceder at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:naomi.ceder at gmail.com <mailto:naomi.ceder at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the reference Carlos. That makes sense...
> >
> > At any rate, when I removed that permission, the warning of
> > course went away. However it still coudn't find my
> > micro:bit, since the port objects have neither a productId
> > nor a vendorId on my system, only a path. When I matched on
> > the path to what I knew to be the right path, I could get a
> > repl working just fine. Which would imply that a different
> > way of finding the right port is needed.
> >
> > I suppose the next thing is to look at the load/save issue.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Naomi
> >
> > On 6 December 2015 at 16:25, Carlos P.A.
> > <carlos.p.a.87 at gmail.com
> <mailto:carlos.p.a.87 at gmail.com> <mailto:carlos.p.a.87 at gmail.com
> <mailto:carlos.p.a.87 at gmail.com>>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Looks like RequestFileSystem might only be supported in
> > ChromeOS, is that the platform you've been using Nicholas?
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/m/#!msg/apps-dev/LEne7qedZrc/7ZEY0uwfDgAJ
> >
> > On 6 December 2015 at 22:09, Naomi Ceder
> > <naomi.ceder at gmail.com
> <mailto:naomi.ceder at gmail.com> <mailto:naomi.ceder at gmail.com
> <mailto:naomi.ceder at gmail.com>>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Sadly I can't get the extension to work on either
> > OSX or Linux - instead, the extension reports
> >
> > There were warnings when trying to install this
> > extension:
> >
> > * 'fileSystem.requestFileSystem' is not allowed
> > for specified platform.
> >
> >
> > So the result for me is that the new, open, and save
> > functions don't do anything at all, and the repl
> > says it can't find the microbit.
> >
> > I'm not finding any explanations of line, but I've
> > attached a screen shot of the warning...
> >
> > I'm also not seeing any setting for Chrome that
> > would seem to help.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Naomi
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6 December 2015 at 15:15, Carlos P.A.
> > <carlos.p.a.87 at gmail.com <mailto:carlos.p.a.87 at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:carlos.p.a.87 at gmail.com <mailto:carlos.p.a.87 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Excellent work Nicholas!
> >
> > Will the pluggin also automatically work when
> > the interface is accessed from the
> > https://www.microbit.co.uk/create-code python
> > link? (once it is implemented in the webiste).
> >
> > As a small suggestion, probably with a low
> > priority, is that having some visual feedback on
> > the page that the program is being flashed would
> > be ideal, even better if there was a tiny
> > progress bar on the button.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Carlos
> >
> > On 6 December 2015 at 20:34, Nicholas
> > H.Tollervey <ntoll at ntoll.org <mailto:ntoll at ntoll.org>
> > <mailto:ntoll at ntoll.org
> <mailto:ntoll at ntoll.org>>> wrote:
> >
> > Basically, this:
> >
> >
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8MGFVuZrrs
> >
> > ...is a first draft and the source
> code is here:
> >
> >
> https://github.com/ntoll/python-native-editor
> >
> > There's no documentation and I'll be
> working
> > on it over the coming days
> > with a view to showing it on Wednesday
> to a
> > bunch of teachers.
> >
> > FYI - working out how to flash the device
> > took several tortuous days.
> > Chrome has a USB API that was
> documented to
> > appear to be exactly what I
> > needed (pushing file based data to the
> > device). I spent far too much
> > time learning about USB and getting
> > permission to write to the device to
> > work.
> >
> > In the end I gave up when I realised there
> > was a really easy hack that
> > was right in front of my nose... just copy
> > the damn .hex file to the
> > device via the built-in file-system API.
> >
> > It worked first time..! :-)
> >
> > That's several hours of my time I'll never
> > get back.
> >
> > Early days. Collaboration welcome!
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Nicholas.
> >
> >
> >
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