[Idle-dev] Fixing and Improving IDLE

[Sean Wolfe]

Ok, you know now, I remember seeing this. It has a lot of the stuff I
want to see also, like tabbed windows and reordering. Cool!


On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Roger Serwy <roger.serwy at gmail.com> wrote:
> IdleX - http://idlex.sourceforge.net
>
> It's a collection of extensions and bug fixes for stock IDLE. It is not a
> fork as much as a wrapper.
>
>
> On 12/12/2011 02:58 PM, Sean Wolfe wrote:
>>
>> Got it. Let me read up on idle hacking and familiarize myself with the
>> bug tracker and I'll get back with you.
>>
>> What's idleX? Funny, I was thinking down the line of making my own
>> fork of idle and calling it idleXL . Haha.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Roger Serwy<roger.serwy at gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am glad that you are willing to help with fixing IDLE. Tkinter
>>> experience
>>> is not a strong prerequisite; you can contribute simply by testing
>>> patches
>>> already provided and giving your feedback. With more reviewers we can
>>> iron-out any unanticipated side-effects.
>>>
>>> I can offer what I know about IDLE's internals if you or anyone else
>>> needs
>>> it (while it is still fresh in my memory) .
>>>
>>> Al Sweigart's article discusses several important shortcomings of IDLE.
>>> Nick
>>> Coghlan created a meta-issue for it: #13504.  Some of those issues are
>>> actually fixed in IdleX.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/12/2011 01:30 PM, Sean Wolfe wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Nice to see this mail! I'm a big fan of IDLE though and it's nice to
>>>> see. I'm not really a IDLE developer yet but I'm boning up on tkinter
>>>> to try and help out in the future... maybe in time to help out with
>>>> this.
>>>>
>>>> Did you guys catch this article? I think so cause there are a lot of
>>>> comments. Anyhow, I dig a lot of the suggestions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://inventwithpython.com/blog/2011/11/29/the-things-i-hate-about-idle-that-i-wish-someone-would-fix/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Roger Serwy<roger.serwy at gmail.com>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> IDLE Developers,
>>>>>
>>>>> By my count there are over 110 valid open issues against IDLE, some
>>>>> minor
>>>>> and others major. Let's try to make that number smaller.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a partial list of issues that have working patches:
>>>>>
>>>>> 3573    IDLE hangs when passing invalid command line args
>>>>> (directory(ies)
>>>>> instead of file(s))
>>>>> 5219    IDLE/Tkinter: edit win stops updating when tooltip is active
>>>>> 6698    IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do
>>>>> so
>>>>> 6699    IDLE: Warn user about overwriting a file that has a newer
>>>>> version
>>>>> on
>>>>> filesystem
>>>>> 7136    Idle File Menu Option Improvement
>>>>> 7676    IDLE shell shouldn't use TABs
>>>>> 8515    idle "Run Module" (F5) does not set __file__ variable
>>>>> 8900    IDLE crashes if Preference set to At Startup ->    Open Edit
>>>>> Window
>>>>> 13039   IDLE editor: shell-like behaviour on line starting with ">>>"
>>>>> 13179   IDLE uses common tkinter variables across all editor windows
>>>>> 13495   IDLE: Regression - Two ColorDelegator instances loaded
>>>>> 13506   IDLE sys.path does not contain Current Working Directory
>>>>>
>>>>> Can these patches be applied? I understand that there will be need for
>>>>> some
>>>>> discussion, but we should try to avoid the bike shed problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not surprisingly, there are a lot of "duplicate" bug reports. Some
>>>>> issues
>>>>> deal with invalid key bindings and should have a common solution: 4765,
>>>>> 5707, 6739, 11437, 12387, 13071. (IdleX already has a work-around for
>>>>> these
>>>>> issues.) Other issues deal with permission error handling of
>>>>> configHandler.py: 4625, 8231, 9404, 9925.
>>>>>
>>>>> One major patch which requires some updating and much consideration is:
>>>>> 10079   idlelib for Python 3 with Guilherme Polo GSoC enhancements
>>>>> There are a lot of good improvements in there.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am willing to help with fixing the remaining bugs if the IDLE
>>>>> developers
>>>>> are willing to help as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Roger
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>



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