[Distutils] Bootstrap script for package management tool in Python 2.7 (Was: Re: [Python-Dev] At least one package management tool for 2.7)

[David Cournapeau]

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:32 AM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Tarek Ziadé <ziade.tarek at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Again, any new code work will not happen because 2.7 is due in less
>>>> than a week. Things are happening in Distutils2.
>>>
>>> That doesn't solve the problem. Bootstrap script can be written in one
>>> day. What we need is a consensus whatever this script is welcomed in
>>> 2.7 or not? Who is the person to make the decision?
>>
>> Guido makes all final decisions.
>>
>> But before he does, in general, we work all together to find a
>> consensus, because he can't take part in all
>> discussions. In this process, I am the guy in charge for packaging
>> matters in the stdlib, and I am trying to write the PEPs that reflects
>> those consensus. But anyone is welcome to champion a PEP as long as we
>> discuss it a bit here, and we agree that a new PEP is required.
>>
>> Feel free to make more points here in distutils-SIG about your idea,
>> to explain the advantages of doing it
>> and gain traction.
>
> So far I haven't seen any counter arguments against _bootstrap script_
> itself.

You certainly have not provided any argument *for* one. Again, what's
the point compared to adding the bootstrap script ez_setup.py in your
package.

I also find the easiness argument rather dubious: especially on
windows, the thing to give a user is an installer (.exe/.msi), not
sources. That will solve more problems than any buggy bootstrap script
requiring a working internet connection will ever do,

cheers,

David