On Sep 8, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Chris McAvoy wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Ian Bicking <ianb at colorstudy.com> > wrote: > > writing-a-web-app-without-a-framework . > > Impossible! Foolhardy! Even more amazing would be, writing-a-framework-not-for-a-web-app. Brian Ray