Fwd: Installation hell

[Thomas Passin]

On 12/19/2022 12:28 PM, j via Python-list wrote:
> I agree. Wasted too much time on last few installs.
> 
> It got to the point I downloaded python-embedded, unzipped it and set 
> the path manually for my work (needed it as part of a compiler).

I don't set those paths.  If you have several different versions 
installed, who knows which one the path will find first?  Probably not 
the one you want.  Without paths to the script files, I need to set them 
temporarily, navigate to to the right directory first, or create a 
dedicated batch file, but at least I get the right ones that way.

I don't find it to be a problem.

> It ain't good enough. And I like python.
> 
> jan
> 
> On 18/12/2022 11:50, Jim Lewis wrote:
>> I'm an occasional user of Python and have a degree in computer science.
>> Almost every freaking time I use Python, I go through PSH (Python Setup
>> Hell). Sometimes a wrong version is installed. Sometimes it's a path 
>> issue.
>> Or exe naming confusion: python, python3, phthon311, etc. Or library
>> compatibility issues - took an hour to find out that pygame does not work
>> with the current version of python. Then the kludgy PIP app and using 
>> a DOS
>> box under Windows with command prompts which is ridiculous. God only 
>> knows
>> how many novice users of the language (or even intermediate users) were
>> lost in the setup process. Why not clean the infrastructure up and make a
>> modern environment or IDE or something better than it is now. Or at least
>> good error messages that explain exactly what to do. Even getting this
>> email to the list took numerous steps.
>>
>> -- A frustrated user