New computer, new Python
Thomas Passin
list1 at tompassin.net
Fri Dec 9 17:36:10 EST 2022
It sounds like on your old computer, you used some kind of program to
write python code and perhaps to run it too. It would help if you could
say what that program was. Python itself - the actual program called
"python.exe" on Windows - runs a Python interpreter inside a Windows
console window. That's what you see when you run "python". You
probably would like to run the same editor as you used on the old
computer, but unless you can say what that program was, we can't help
you. The best we can do is to suggest various alternative programs and
editors, as several people have already done.
On 12/9/2022 12:13 PM, kermit at polaris.net wrote:
>
>
> Hello. I've downloaded the new Python to my new Computer, and the new Python mystifies me.
>
> Instead of an editor, it looks like a Dos executable program.
>
> How can I write my own Python Functions and subroutines in the new Python?
>
> It is version 3.11 (64 bit).
>
> Kermit
>
>
>
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> 1. Re: How to convert a raw string r'\xdd' to '\xdd' more
> gracefully? (Jach Feng)
> 2. Re: Nonuniform PRNG? (Stefan Ram)
> 3. Panoptisch - A way to understand your project's dependencies
> and find malicious packages (Aarnav Mahavir Bos)
> 4. MinecraftEdu (Jelena Ili?)
> 5. Re: MinecraftEdu (Cameron Simpson)
> 6. Re: How to convert a raw string r'\xdd' to '\xdd' more
> gracefully? (Jach Feng)
> 7. Re: Panoptisch - A way to understand your project's
> dependencies and find malicious packages (Axy)
> 8. Re: How to convert a raw string r'\xdd' to '\xdd' more
> gracefully? (Weatherby,Gerard)
> 9. Re: Panoptisch - A way to understand your project's
> dependencies and find malicious packages (Dan Kolis)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2022 00:56:42 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jach Feng <jfong at ms4.hinet.net>
> To: python-list at python.org
> Subject: Re: How to convert a raw string r'\xdd' to '\xdd' more
> gracefully?
> Message-ID: <a3d9c9b0-aa3a-431a-9275-6f0489f458d6n at googlegroups.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
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> Jach Feng ? 2022?12?7? ?????10:23:20 [UTC+8] ??????
>> s0 = r'\x0a'
>> At this moment it was done by
>>
>> def to1byte(matchobj):
>> ....return chr(int('0x' + matchobj.group(1), 16))
>> s1 = re.sub(r'\\x([0-9a-fA-F]{2})', to1byte, s0)
>>
>> But, is it that difficult on doing this simple thing?
>>
>> --Jach
> I find another answer on the web.
>
>>>> s0 = r'\x0a'
>>>> s0.encode('Latin-1').decode('unicode-escape')
> '\n'
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: 8 Dec 2022 12:17:22 GMT
> From: ram at zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
> To: python-list at python.org
> Subject: Re: Nonuniform PRNG?
> Message-ID: <random-20221208131657 at ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>
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> "Robert E. Beaudoin" <rbeaudoin at acm.org> writes:
>> One thing you could do is to apply von Neumann de-biasing to convert a
>> string of output bits from your biased PRNG to an unbiased string, and
>> test the de-biased output.
>
> Some non-uniform generators are based on uniform generators
> whose output then is warped by the application of some function.
>
> If one has access to the underlying uniform generator used,
> one can test this with the algorithms for uniform generators.
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2022 18:52:29 +0100
> From: Aarnav Mahavir Bos <aarnav.bos at code.berlin>
> To: python-list at python.org
> Subject: Panoptisch - A way to understand your project's dependencies
> and find malicious packages
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>
> Hello all,
>
> I would like to share Panoptisch, a FOSS(Free and Open Source Software)
> tool I've been working on.
>
> We all may have encountered the issue of not having a clear dependency tree
> or not being sure of the modules our dependencies and sub-dependencies are
> using.
>
> Some of us may have also heard of supply chain attacks, where open source
> projects are hijacked to distribute malicious code masquerading as the
> original package. This can happen deep down in the dependency chain.
>
> Panoptisch was born out of the need to accurately verify the modules used
> in my project.
> It recursively scans a Python module or file to find modules used and
> exports a report in JSON which can be parsed for analysis.
>
> For example, should your yaml parser, or it's sub-dependencies import
> socket/os? should your markdown renderer or it's sub-dependencies import
> sys/importlib? *Probably not.*
>
> Panoptisch is in early stages, has known limitations and is looking for
> help! I would love feedback, contributions, and most important of all,
> rigorous testing!
>
> I would also love to help you integrate this tool in your workflow to write
> more secure software.
>
> Link: https://github.com/R9295/panoptisch
> Short Demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDJWl_odXx0
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> aarnav
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2022 12:12:47 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jelena Ili? <ilicjelena3105 at gmail.com>
> To: python-list at python.org
> Subject: MinecraftEdu
> Message-ID: <60a744d6-4994-41c3-a3bc-635cc7d665c3n at googlegroups.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hello,
> I'm new to MinecraftEDU programming with Python. I'm wondering if anyone can recommend how to get started with creating lessons and how to get started programming in MinecraftEDU?
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 08:26:12 +1100
> From: Cameron Simpson <cs at cskk.id.au>
> To: Jelena Ili? <ilicjelena3105 at gmail.com>
> Cc: python-list at python.org
> Subject: Re: MinecraftEdu
> Message-ID: <Y5JWdImqGO2m5C6q at cskk.homeip.net>
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> On 08Dec2022 12:12, Jelena Ili? <ilicjelena3105 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm new to MinecraftEDU programming with Python. I'm wondering if
>> anyone can recommend how to get started with creating lessons and how
>> to get started programming in MinecraftEDU?
>
> Had you started here?
> https://education.minecraft.net/en-us/resources/computer-science-subject-kit/python-101
>
> That's just from a web search, I've not used it.
>
> Cheers,
> Cameron Simpson <cs at cskk.id.au>
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2022 18:05:02 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jach Feng <jfong at ms4.hinet.net>
> To: python-list at python.org
> Subject: Re: How to convert a raw string r'\xdd' to '\xdd' more
> gracefully?
> Message-ID: <ce66cc3c-1361-4611-8314-bec0a3ca7abdn at googlegroups.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Jach Feng ? 2022?12?7? ?????10:23:20 [UTC+8] ??????
>> s0 = r'\x0a'
>> At this moment it was done by
>>
>> def to1byte(matchobj):
>> ....return chr(int('0x' + matchobj.group(1), 16))
>> s1 = re.sub(r'\\x([0-9a-fA-F]{2})', to1byte, s0)
>>
>> But, is it that difficult on doing this simple thing?
>>
>> --Jach
> The whold story is,
>
> I had a script which accepts an argparse's positional argument. I like this argument may have control character embedded in when required. So I make a post "How to enter escape character in a positional string argument from the command line? on DEC05. But there is no response. I assume that there is no way of doing it and I have to convert it later after I get the whole string from the command line.
>
> I made this convertion using the chr(int(...)) method but not satisfied with. That why this post came out.
>
> At this moment the conversion is done almost the same as Peter's codecs.decode() method but without the need of importing codecs module:-)
>
> def to1byte(matchobj):
> ....return matchobj.group(0).encode().decode("unicode-escape")
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 03:49:58 +0000
> From: Axy <axy at declassed.art>
> To: python-list at python.org
> Subject: Re: Panoptisch - A way to understand your project's
> dependencies and find malicious packages
> Message-ID: <146e747f-bb2b-29e6-b8df-93698495c46a at declassed.art>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> On 08/12/2022 17:52, Aarnav Mahavir Bos wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I would like to share Panoptisch, a FOSS(Free and Open Source Software)
>> tool I've been working on.
>
> Hi there,
>
> I added your project to my watch list, keep on your work.
>
> A couple of points:
>
> First, I glanced at the code and in the very first file I opened,
> https://github.com/R9295/panoptisch/blob/master/panoptisch/__init__.py,
> I see main(). I usually place such a code in __main__.py
>
> Second, in addition to AST analysis it would be nice to implement a
> sandbox with import hooks.
>
> Axy.
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 13:29:06 +0000
> From: "Weatherby,Gerard" <gweatherby at uchc.edu>
> To: Jach Feng <jfong at ms4.hinet.net>, "python-list at python.org"
> <python-list at python.org>
> Subject: Re: How to convert a raw string r'\xdd' to '\xdd' more
> gracefully?
> Message-ID:
> <SA1PR14MB5855E3DF0336F514B506CAF9B91C9 at SA1PR14MB5855.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp"
>
> That?s actually more of a shell question than a Python question. How you pass certain control characters is going to depend on the shell, operating system, and possibly the keyboard you?re using. (e.g. https://www.alt-codes.net).
>
> Here?s a sample program. The dashes are to help show the boundaries of the string
>
> #!/usr/bin/env python3
> import argparse
> import logging
>
>
> parser = argparse.ArgumentParser(formatter_class=argparse.ArgumentDefaultsHelpFormatter)
> parser.add_argument('data')
> args = parser.parse_args()
> print(f'Input\n: -{args.data}- length {len(args.data)}')
> for c in args.data:
> print(f'{ord(c)} ',end='')
> print()
>
>
> Using bash on Linux:
>
> ./cl.py '^M
> '
> Input
> -
> - length 3
> 13 32 10
>
>
> From: Python-list <python-list-bounces+gweatherby=uchc.edu at python.org> on behalf of Jach Feng <jfong at ms4.hinet.net>
> Date: Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 9:31 PM
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> Jach Feng ? 2022?12?7? ?????10:23:20 [UTC+8] ??????
>> s0 = r'\x0a'
>> At this moment it was done by
>>
>> def to1byte(matchobj):
>> ....return chr(int('0x' + matchobj.group(1), 16))
>> s1 = re.sub(r'\\x([0-9a-fA-F]{2})', to1byte, s0)
>>
>> But, is it that difficult on doing this simple thing?
>>
>> --Jach
> The whold story is,
>
> I had a script which accepts an argparse's positional argument. I like this argument may have control character embedded in when required. So I make a post "How to enter escape character in a positional string argument from the command line? on DEC05. But there is no response. I assume that there is no way of doing it and I have to convert it later after I get the whole string from the command line.
>
> I made this convertion using the chr(int(...)) method but not satisfied with. That why this post came out.
>
> At this moment the conversion is done almost the same as Peter's codecs.decode() method but without the need of importing codecs module:-)
>
> def to1byte(matchobj):
> ....return matchobj.group(0).encode().decode("unicode-escape")
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 07:38:57 -0800 (PST)
> From: Dan Kolis <dankolis at gmail.com>
> To: python-list at python.org
> Subject: Re: Panoptisch - A way to understand your project's
> dependencies and find malicious packages
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> I think it needs a built in viewer or at least a human readable output, or nobody will go through the trouble to use it.
>
> Other that that, maybe a pretty good idea, sure
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