Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

[Chris Green]

Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2021-05-06, Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote:
> > Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 2021-05-06, Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote:
> >> > Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Pointing a newsreader at news.gmane.io allows one to participate in
> >> >> the mailing list just fine without using Usenet.
> >> >> 
> >> > ???  Surely that *is* using Usenet, at least you're using NNTP which
> >> > is the Usenet protocol.  What's "not Usenet" about it?
> >> 
> >> Usenet was a distributed network of computers that transferred
> >> articles amongst themselves using various protocols, and provided
> >> access to readers in various ways (NNTP being one of them).
> >> 
> > Usenet *is* still this
> 
> Good point.
> 
> >> Gmane was not and is not part of that network. It is a single,
> >> stand-alone machine operating as an email list archiver/gateway that
> >> provides access to read/post via NTTP.
> >
> > It is effectively part of Usenet because the mailing lists it hosts
> > and gateways to its newserver are peered with Usenet.  
> 
> I don't consider that as "being part of Usenet". Being part of Usenet
> means that you peer with other the news hosts within Usenet, provide
> the same group hiearchary (or some defined subset) and obey the normal
> newsgroup control messages.
> 
> > I read several gmane 'lists' via usenet, I most certainly don't get
> > them directly from gmane, I get them from other usenet servers.
> 
> Are you saying that the gmane news server is peered with other news
> servers? And that you can read gmane.comp.python.general on other news
> servers?  That didn't used to be the case...
> 
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

... ah, but, you're probably right!  Sorry.  I've just looked at my
leafnode configuration and I *have* got news.gmane.io in there.  I
must have done it so long ago that I'd forgotten all about it.

-- 
Chris Green
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