Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards at gmail.com
Thu May 6 13:47:00 EDT 2021


On 2021-05-06, Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote:
> Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2021-05-06, Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote:
>> > Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Pointing a newsreader at news.gmane.io allows one to participate in
>> >> the mailing list just fine without using Usenet.
>> >> 
>> > ???  Surely that *is* using Usenet, at least you're using NNTP which
>> > is the Usenet protocol.  What's "not Usenet" about it?
>> 
>> Usenet was a distributed network of computers that transferred
>> articles amongst themselves using various protocols, and provided
>> access to readers in various ways (NNTP being one of them).
>> 
> Usenet *is* still this

Good point.

>> Gmane was not and is not part of that network. It is a single,
>> stand-alone machine operating as an email list archiver/gateway that
>> provides access to read/post via NTTP.
>
> It is effectively part of Usenet because the mailing lists it hosts
> and gateways to its newserver are peered with Usenet.  

I don't consider that as "being part of Usenet". Being part of Usenet
means that you peer with other the news hosts within Usenet, provide
the same group hiearchary (or some defined subset) and obey the normal
newsgroup control messages.

> I read several gmane 'lists' via usenet, I most certainly don't get
> them directly from gmane, I get them from other usenet servers.

Are you saying that the gmane news server is peered with other news
servers? And that you can read gmane.comp.python.general on other news
servers?  That didn't used to be the case...




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