Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

[Skip Montanaro]

> Are you saying that the messages that appear occasionally from people
> such as Ethan Furman claiming to be moderators and alleging that
> particular people have been banned or suspended are lies? And that the
> message I received once saying that my comp.lang.python post had been
> rejected from the list was also a lie?

I'm sorry, but I don't recall accusing you of lying, neither in my
words nor in my thoughts. If you think I was doing that, you must be
reading everything with a very jaundiced eye.

My issue was that we seem to disagree with the definition of
"moderation." Earlier in this thread it was suggested that
comp.lang.python.moderated be created and that some as-yet-unnamed
moderators would vet every single message to that group. I think of
moderation as things which humans do, not tool chains. I suppose the
python.org postmasters could disable all elements of that tool chain
and let the admins/moderators do it all manually. Still, I don't think
of the mailing list as moderated. Yes, Ethan is one of three listed
admins of the list. I wouldn't have mentioned him by name, but you
did. (I suppose his role common knowledge anyway.)

I see three held messages in the queue right now with received times
between 00:33 to 08:15 today (timezone isn't mentioned). I seriously
doubt Ethan or the other admins approved all the other messages which
have reached the list in that interval. Despite the existing tool
chain, a number of messages which shouldn't probably leak through
without being vetted by Ethan or the other admins.

I will offer one other bit of information. As I understand it, the
only reason python-list at python.org can't be migrated to Mailman 3 is
because it doesn't support the gateway between Usenet and mail. It's
worth considering for people thinking about whether or not to
disconnect the two. (I have no opinion on that subject. Clearly others
do.)

Skip