Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

Jon Ribbens jon+usenet at unequivocal.eu
Thu May 6 09:12:07 EDT 2021


On 2021-05-06, Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Are you unaware that the group is already gatewayed to a moderated
>> mailing list for which all of that work is already done?
>
> What is this moderation of which you speak? I'm one of the Python
> postmasters (I maintain the SpamBayes setup) and am aware of a
> multi-part tool chain (black hole lists, SpamBayes, greylisting, etc),
> but not of human moderation on a grand scale, just of the relatively
> few posts which are held for the admins/moderators by SpamBayes. My
> definition of "moderation" is that a human vets every post.

That's not a definition that anyone else would use, I think,
and I say that as a moderator of a Usenet group..

> That's certainly not the case for python-list at python.org. Posts gated
> from comp.lang.python to the mailing list only get passed through
> SpamBayes. All other elements of the tool chain occur ahead of the
> gateway.
>
> If we are using two different definitions of "moderation" I think it
> is important to be clear what we mean.

Are you saying that the messages that appear occasionally from people
such as Ethan Furman claiming to be moderators and alleging that
particular people have been banned or suspended are lies? And that the
message I received once saying that my comp.lang.python post had been
rejected from the list was also a lie?


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