Suggestion for a "data" object syntax

Mark Lawrence breamoreboy at gmail.com
Tue May 8 17:43:01 EDT 2018


On 08/05/18 22:33, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Mikhail V <mikhailwas at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 5:25 PM, Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Mikhail V <mikhailwas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Right? Your issues with tabs aside, I think it is impossible to ignore the
>>>> the readability improvement. Not even speaking of how
>>>> many commas and bracket you need to type in the first case.
>>>
>>> That's incredibly subjective. Or else straight-up wrong, I'm not sure which.
>>
>> Just admit it, you try to troll me (or just pretend, I don't know).
> 
> No, I am not trolling you.
> 
>> Have you ever seen tables with commas left in there?
> 
> It's called CSV.
> 
>> I've never seen in my whole life. And you should understand why.
>>
>> Have you ever seen a website with sparse menu items or 'cloud' tags
>> with commas attached?
>> Have you ever heard someone claim that writing a 2d matrix down in a
>> single line is better that present it as a table?
>>
>> So what you find _incredibly_ subjective here?
> 
> Neither of those examples is program code. You are asking for a
> syntactic change to a *programming language*. Everything you've said
> is fine for a non-code format. Nothing is applicable to a programming
> language.
> 
>>> Why should this be a language feature? Why not just create a data file
>>> and then load it, or use a triple quoted string and write your own
>>> parser? What's the advantage of making this language syntax?
>>
>> I am not sure what happens if I make another argument -
>> if it feels so easy for you to deny the obvious improvements (which
>> also supported by whole worlds' typography experience) then you can
>> just as easy deny pretty everything. How would we build any conversation
>> then?
> 
> Good question. You're clearly not interested in doing things the
> existing (and easy) way, so there's no point debating this.
> Fortunately for the rest of us, status quo wins a stalemate.
> 
> ChrisA
> 

Please stop feeding the OP, to my knowledge he's never once come up with 
any sensible suggestion for Python.

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence




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