choice of web-framework

[Chris Warrick]

On 22 October 2017 at 13:48, Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Chris Warrick <kwpolska at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 22 October 2017 at 13:25, Lele Gaifax <lele at metapensiero.it> wrote:
>>> Chris Warrick <kwpolska at gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Zope is effectively dead these days.
>>>
>>> Except it's alive and kicking: https://blog.gocept.com/
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> ciao, lele.
>>
>> A few people still care, sure. But how alive is a project with 16
>> (sixteen) people on IRC (freenode #zope), 85 (eighty-five) stars on
>> GitHub, and 205 issues on GitHub (since 2013)?
>>
>
> I'm not too bothered by number of stars, nor necessarily by the issue
> count (maybe a lot of their work is discussed by email, not the
> tracker). Most important, to me, is the number of commits. And that
> doesn't look too bad; there aren't a huge number of them, but they're
> fairly consistently being made. So I'd say the project isn't dead,
> though you could very well argue that it's merely playing catch-up. (I
> didn't look at the content of the commits in detail or anything.)
>
> ChrisA
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Mailing lists are quiet as well:
https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/
https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/

For a web framework, the daily commit count is much less important
than the size of the active community. An active community means more
people that can offer support, fix bugs, write docs, provide
ready-made modules to achieve common tasks. Zope’s community is
nonexistent. Django has 1483 contributors and 29k stars on GitHub.
Zope has 83 and 85 respectively.

https://blog.gocept.com/2016/10/04/zope-resurrection-part-2-defibrillation/

> Zope is not dead. On the sprint there were nearly 20 people who use Zope for their daily work.

Oh my, twenty people! That’s a lot! A lot!

Yeah, no. Zope is dead. With a few folks going through the “denial”
phase. Or the “I’ve got legacy code from last decade I can’t be
bothered to rewrite” phase.

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