Heroku (was Re: Lies in education [was Re: The "loop and a half"])

[Ben Bacarisse]

"Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet3 at hjp.at> writes:

> On 2017-10-13 21:42, Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet at bsb.me.uk> wrote:
>> That's one way to put it.  Another is that to use Python I need to buy a
>> new service that is already configured.
>
> That's exactly the same for PHP. You can't use that either unless
> somebody configured to server to use it.

I was not using "I" generically.  *I* don't need to buy a service
configured to use PHP because:

> The difference is that lots of providers started configuring their
> servers for use of PHP in the late 1990s, but didn't do that for Python.
>
>> If that's the way it's done, fine, but this sub-thread started with
>> someone being surprised by the success of PHP.
>
> Which probably boils down to the question: Why did providers offer PHP
> and not Python? One reason might be that at the time no suitable web
> framework for Python existed (Zope was released in 1999, and I remember
> it to be rather heavy-weight). One reason might be that providers didn't
> see PHP as a "real" programming language and therefore deemed it
> safer.

That would be deeply ironic, given the security pain that it has turned
out to be!

-- 
Ben.