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[Chris Angelico]

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:24 PM, D'Arcy Cain <darcy at vex.net> wrote:
> Think of it this way.  You drop a ring down a drain.  You can ask two
> questions, "How do I remove a drain trap?" or "How do I recover a ring that
> I dropped down the drain?"  If you ask the first question you will get lots
> of advice on tools and buckets, etc.  People will assume that the drain is
> blocked.  Ask the second question and someone might mention a magnet and a
> piece of string.

... and then you follow up with "it's a gold ring, magnet won't touch it", and 
we'll go off on a tangent about whether the ring is sufficiently plain that it 
might be the One Ring, and shouldn't you destroy it instead of retrieving 
it.... because that's what we do here
:D

ChrisA