Re: GitHub's “pull request” is proprietary lock-in

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W dniu 04.01.2016 o 18:41, Michael Torrie pisze:
>> Decade ago, I had plenty of friends on my jabber contacts list. Next,
>> > Google made it's talk compatible with jabber, then my friends slowly
>> > migrated to gtalk, because if they used gmail anyway, then why not use
>> > it also for jabber?
>> > 
>> > And then Google turned off XMPP support and suddenly I lost ability to
>> > contact with 80% of my friends without having stupid hangouts running,
>> > or without falling back to email (which is not so bad BTW).
> I use gtalk with Pidgin every day using XMPP.  So Google still supports
> XMPP.  However what they stopped doing was allowing federated XMPP,
> which pretty much breaks XMPP, at least the spirit of it.  So the only
> way to chat with gtalk users is to use your gtalk account.  

Exactly. My friends slowly migrated to using gtalk instead of jabber
client, because if they have open gmail anyways, then why should they
bother with installing additional software. 80% never came back to
jabber client. They don't need to, they still have communication between
them and I'm minority which uses strange not supported technology :).

> But you
> certainly don't need hangouts.  XMPP works fine between your client and
> the Google server.

Oh, and it's definitively what I want - talk with google server ;).

> 
> I agree that Google really pulled a bad one with gtalk though.  Dropping
> federated XMPP support was definitely not in keeping with their original
> "do no evil" mantra.
> 
>> > The same can be with Github and git. PPL will forget how to use git
>> > without github. When Github will make git-incompatible changes, vast
>> > majority will need/want to follow the changes and eg. will use Gitlabs
>> > propertiary binary.
> Yup you are correct.  However for the foreseeable future, you can still
> do a git clone from github, and you can still use your local repository
> normally.  

And I can do nothing with it, because nobody will want to cooperate with
me - they will use github instead of git.

Sad thing is that it's rather inevitable and not moving python repo to
github or not won't stop the process. However - wise would be to have
github-like software on own servers.

p. m.