Installing PyCharm on Windows

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Josef Pktd wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^
I doubt that is your real name.

> On Saturday, December 19, 2015 at 1:32:27 PM UTC-5, Thomas 'PointedEars'
> Lahn wrote:
>> Have you tried to install Python ≥ 3.4.4rc1 on Windows XP?  If yes, it
>> cannot work; you need Python < 3.4.4rc1 instead (and you should seriously
>> consider upgrading Windows or even better, to switch to a real operating
>> system, like GNU/Linux – many of the latter come for free and give you
>> more freedom than Windows):
> 
> Thanks for the tip, I will switch away from Windows when I have an extra
> year to figure out weird things in other operating systems.

Ordinary people (as opposed to tech-savvy people) have been known to set up 
a current Linux distribution in a day and get accustomed to it in a week.  
Those “weird things” you are talking about are merely something that needs a 
little getting used to if you had gotten used to Windows.  Of course, not 
all people are (still) that flexible in their thinking.

> So far I never managed more than two weeks in a Linux virtual machine
> before never opening it again.

Your problem alone.

> PPS: The mainstream: Python and Windows ("it's not just for 'hackers'"):

Non-Windows operating systems are not just for hackers since more than a 
decade.  They are for reasonably smart people, though, who would not give up 
at the first sign of trouble.

And who cares about the mainstream opinion?

> http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

Thank you so much for providing that valuable reference. I am sure nobody 
here knew :->

> https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0

A million flies can be wrong.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows#Third-party_analysis>

> PPPS: Scientific Python mailing list have been free of snide remarks about
> Windows users for a while, but not of real problems with Windows (or OSX
> or Linux)

Thanks to you that would have changed if this were a “scientific Python 
mailing list”.

Mine was not a snide remark, but the truth.  Those other operating systems I 
was talking about do give users more freedom.  For example, the freedom to 
use it on as many different machines as you like without an extra license, 
to see the source code, to modify it, and to redistribute the modification 
including an attribution to yourself.
 
> PPPPS: Windows 10 with Computer as a Service following Apple will lock in
> many users again to "everything Microsoft", but without the monopoly.

If people are made dependent on a single vendor, how is that not attempting 
to attain a monopoly?

Anyhow, *I* was not intending to start an OS flame war, but to point out 
that in my experience Python is easier to handle on other OSes than Windows, 
so it is a contingency that should be considered.  As you indicated, that 
does not mean that one has to abandon Windows for booting the computer.

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