Unicode in Python
Rustom Mody
rustompmody at gmail.com
Tue Apr 22 02:30:45 EDT 2014
On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:41:56 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 20:57:39 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
> > As a unicode user (ok wannabe unicode user :D ) Ive written up some
> > unicode ideas that have been discussed here in the last couple of weeks:
> > http://blog.languager.org/2014/04/unicoded-python.html
> What you are talking about is not handling Unicode with Python, but
> extending the programming language to allow non-English *letters* to be
> used as if they were *symbols*.
> That's very problematic, since it assumes that nobody would ever want to
> use non-English letters in an alphanumeric context. You write:
> [quote]
> Now to move ahead!
> We dont[sic] want
> >>> λ = 1
> >>> λ
> 1
> We want
> >>> (λx : x+1)(2)
> 3
> [end quote]
> (Speak for yourself.) But this is a problem. Suppose I want to use a
> Greek word as a variable, as Python allows me to do:
> λόγος = "a word"
> Or perhaps as the parameter to a function. Take the random.expovariate
> function, which currently takes an argument "lambd" (since lambda is a
> reserved word). I might write instead:
> def expovariate(self, λ): ...
> After all, λ is an ordinary letter of the (Greek) alphabet, why shouldn't
> it be used in variable names? But if "λx" is syntax for "lambda x", then
> I'm going to get syntax errors:
> λόγος = "a word"
> => like: lambda όγος = "a word"
> def expovariate(self, λ):
> => like: def expovariate(self, lambda):
> both of which are obviously syntax errors.
> This is as hostile to Greek-using programmers as deciding that "f" should
> be reserved for functions would be to English-using programmers:
> # space between the f and the function name is not needed
> fspam(x, y):
> ...
> class Thingy:
> f__init__(selF):
> ...
> fmethod(selF, arg):
> return arg + 1
> Notice that I can't even write "self" any more, since that gives a syntax
> error. Presumable "if" is okay, as it is a keyword.
> Using Unicode *symbols* rather than non-English letters is less of a
> problem, since they aren't valid in identifiers.
Ok point taken.
So instead of using λ (0x3bb) we should use 𝝀 (0x1d740) or something thereabouts like 𝜆
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