Python GUI?

[eamonnrea at gmail.com]

On Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:05:14 AM UTC+1, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 09/11/2013 02:55 PM, eamonnrea at gmail.com wrote:
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> > PyQT -- You have a GUI designer, so I'm not going to count that
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> What do you mean?  Gtk has a GUI designer too.  what of it?
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> > I, personally, really like wxPython, but I also really like Tkinter.
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> > I've messed with PyGTK, but I'd choose wxPython over it.
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> Not me.  wxWidgets' event model is way too MFC-esque for me.  Does it
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> still use event numbers that you define?  Shudder.
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> Gtk and Qt's method of signals and slots is by far the most powerful and
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> flexible.
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> > Have you got anything to say on what one I should be using(excluding
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> > PyQT because it has a D&D designer >:( )? Is Tkinter really dead?
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> > Should I stick with wxPython?
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> I still don't understand why you are excluding Qt.  All modern toolkits
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> are heading towards imperative GUI design.  With Gtk I use Glade and
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> GtkBuilder.  My GUI is in a nice XML file that gets loaded and
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> manipulated by my python class.  It's extremely clean.  And in the case
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> of compiled programming, you don't have to recompile just to tweak
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> something like a layout.
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> At the moment if someone were to come in from scratch and ask what GUI
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> toolkit to use, I would answer Qt with PySide.  It's the most
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> cross-platform of all the toolkits, and it's one of the most mature.
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> Gtk is also good, but Windows and Mac support is always lagging behind
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> X11, and it's not as good at fitting into the native look and feel.
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> > Also, with wxPython, it has kind of a "flow" layout like JFrame,
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> > whereas it will adjust it's layout to look like a native Mac App,
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> > Windows app or Linux App, correct? It'll look almost identical,
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> > right? Not that it matters, I'm just curious! :D
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> Possibly.  I know Qt and Gtk both can flip the button orders, etc to
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> look more native.  And all good toolkits give you layout managers so you
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> never have to resort to fixed layouts.  Qt's layout system is very
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> different than Gtk's, but once you get the feel of it (use the Qt
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> Designer program!), it makes a lot of sense.

I didn't realise GTK has a GUI designer too :(

I don't like it when you can D&D to position things. I don't understand why someone wouldn't want to write the positioning code, and have fun with the debugging. That's the best part about writing a program, in my opinion. I'm against D&D with programming, and I'm not sure why.