Some posts do not show up in Google Groups

[Robert Miles]

On 5/1/2012 1:12 AM, Frank Millman wrote:
> On Apr 30, 8:20 am, Frank Millman<fr... at chagford.com>  wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>> For a while now I have been using Google Groups to read this group, but on the odd occasion when I want to post a message, I use Outlook Express, as I know that some people reject all messages from Google Groups due to the high spam ratio (which seems to have improved recently, BTW).
>>
>>  From time to time I see a thread where the original post is missing, but the follow-ups do appear. My own posts have shown up with no problem.
>>
>> Now, in the last month, I have posted two messages using Outlook Express, and neither of them have shown up in Google Groups. I can see replies in OE, so they are being accepted. I send to the group gmane.comp.python.general.
>>
>> Does anyone know a reason for this, or have a solution?
>>
>> Frank Millman
>
> Thanks for the replies. I am also coming to the conclusion that Google
> Groups is no longer fit-for-purpose.
>
> Ironically, here are two replies that I can see in Outlook Express,
> but do not appear in Google Groups.
>
> Reply from Benjamin Kaplan -
>> I believe the mail-to-news gateway has trouble with HTML messages. Try sending everything as plain text and see if that works.
>
> I checked, and all my posts were sent in plain text.
>
> Reply from Terry Reedy -
>> Read and post through news.gmane.org
>
> I have had a look at this before, but there is one thing that Google
> Groups does that no other reader seems to do, and that is that
> messages are sorted according to thread-activity, not original posting
> date. This makes it easy to see what has changed since the last time I
> checked.
>
> All the other ones I have looked at - Outlook Express, Thunderbird,
> and gmane.org, sort by original posting date, so I have to go
> backwards to see if any threads have had any new postings.
>
> Maybe there is a setting that I am not aware of. Can anyone enlighten
> me?
>
> Thanks
>
> Frank

Thunderbird appears to change the sorting order for me based on
whether I tell it to put the newest messages at the top of its
window or at the bottom.

Some newsgroups servers appear to discard every post they get
that contains any HTML.  This may be because Google Groups often
adds HTML even if you don't ask for it, and those servers want
to avoid the poor signal to noise ratio from Google Groups.

Robert Miles