my new project, is this the right way?

88888 Dihedral dihedral88888 at googlemail.com
Mon Nov 28 03:51:06 EST 2011


On Sunday, November 27, 2011 4:49:14 PM UTC+8, 88888 Dihedral wrote:
> On Sunday, November 27, 2011 4:29:52 PM UTC+8, 88888 Dihedral wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 27, 2011 12:03:26 PM UTC+8, Matt Joiner wrote:
> > > Sounds like you want a key-value store. If it's a lot of data, you may
> > > still want a "database", I think it's just relational databases that
> > > you're trying to avoid?
> > > 
> > > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:41 AM, 88888 Dihedral
> > > <dih... at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, November 26, 2011 1:01:34 AM UTC+8, rusi wrote:
> > > >> On Nov 14, 3:41 pm, Tracubik <aff... at b.com> wrote:
> > > >> > Hi all,
> > > >> > i'm developing a new program.
> > > >> > Mission: learn a bit of database management
> > > >> > Idea: create a simple, 1 window program that show me a db of movies i've
> > > >> > seen with few (<10) fields (actors, name, year etc)
> > > >> > technologies i'll use: python + gtk
> > > >> > db: that's the question
> > > >> >
> > > >> > since i'm mostly a new-bye for as regard databases, my idea is to use
> > > >> > sqlite at the beginning.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Is that ok? any other db to start with? (pls don't say mysql or similar,
> > > >> > they are too complex and i'll use this in a second step)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > is there any general tutorial of how to start developing a database? i
> > > >> > mean a general guide to databases you can suggest to me?
> > > >> > Thank you all
> > > >> >
> > > >> > MedeoTL
> > > >> >
> > > >> > P.s. since i have a ods sheet files (libreoffice calc), is there a way to
> > > >> > easily convert it in a sqlite db? (maybe via csv)
> > > >>
> > > >> To learn DBMS you need to learn sql
> > > >> [Note sql is necessary but not sufficient for learning DBMS]
> > > >> I recommend lightweight approaches to start with -- others have
> > > >> mentioned access, libreoffice-base.
> > > >> One more lightweight playpen is firefox plugin sqlite-manager
> > > >>
> > > >> > Is that ok? any other db to start with? (pls don't say mysql or similar,
> > > >> > they are too complex and i'll use this in a second step)
> > > >>
> > > >> Correct. First you must figure out how to structure data -- jargon is
> > > >> normalization.
> > > >> After that you can look at transactions, ACID, distribution and all
> > > >> the other good stuff.
> > > >
> > > > If I have a fast hash library  that each hash function supports insertion and deletion and can be frozen to be stored into the file system if desired and retrieved lator . Can I use several hashes to replace a database that is slow and expensive?
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > >
> > 
> > A database with most entries in fixed bytes and types and several  types that can have varied lengths of 8 to 256 bytes. If an entry is larger than 256 bytes, it will be saved as a file but only the file name is saved in my data base.
> >   
> > Each entry is just a type and value stored  in a row of my database.
> > I''ll limit the number of entries in a row or so called a recored to some limit first, 1024 first. 
> >    
> > Can I do this in 1024 hashes in python ?
> Sorry I 'll use (k=column_in_a_row, v=value) and (k=value, v=column_in_a_row)
> Thus, two hashes per column in  my database, therefore  2048 hashes to manage the data base.

For the same value stored , I need a column_no+next stored, a list.   
 All relations can be derived.



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