Tkinter: The good, the bad, and the ugly!

[Arndt Roger Schneider]

rantingrick schrieb:
> On Jan 18, 12:25 pm, Arndt Roger Schneider <arndt.ro... at addcom.de>
> wrote:
> 
>>rantingrick schrieb:
>>
>>>On Jan 18, 7:09 am, Arndt Roger Schneider <arndt.ro... at addcom.de>
> 
> 
>>>We DO need to consider the mobile market in this decision. Maybe it is
>>>time for us to actually get on the cutting edge of GUI's. Maybe we
>>>should head an effort to create a REAL 21st century GUI that can
>>>handle desktop, mobile, and accessibility, and do it all whilst
>>>looking very sharp! Sure we rob from peter to pay paul. We will use
>>>Tkinters awesome API and geometry managers, wxPythons feature
>>>richness, and any other code we can steal to make this work!
>>
>>I am not sure whether this sarcasms or for real...,
>>so I'll take for genuine.
> 
> 
> 
> No this is real, albeit a bit fantastical. Thats probably why you
> thought it was sarcasm :).
> 
> However, we need to start a revolution in the GUI world. Currently we
> (as developers) are slaves to the OEM's and OS's. This must change. We
> must unify GUI coding the same way OpenGL unified graphics coding.
> Multiplicity is ruining any and all advancements in Graphical User
> Interfaces. Sure multiplicity is great in emerging systems (language,
> culture, GUI, etc, etc) However at some point  you must reign in this
> multiplicity and harness the collective knowledge into an all
> encompassing standard. OpenGUI is that standard.  It should be shipped
> with every OS in the world. This is the only way we can have mobile,
> desktop, and accessibility all combined into one beautiful package.
> Then the contest come down to who can create the best abstraction API.
> 

There has been no advancement in GUI-Design. Today it looks and
behaves just the way Bill Atkinson designed it.
Technical revolutions are made by disruptive thoughts,
which are never collective.
...The problem with gui-design:It requires an graphical artist,
a well versed writer, a software architect and a programmer.
The first two job description are the important ones.

...No OS-vender is going to allow that, it equals
lost control.

> 
> 
>>Tk is also doomed, and Tkinter isn't Tk.
>>You are right about keeping the separate geometry
>>managers, though.
>>
>>For starters:http://kenai.com/projects/swank
> 
> 
> This looks like a very young project (beta) and i could not find a
> widget set. However i will investigate more. Thanks
> 

alpha

> However we need to think beyond even a Python community scale. This
> problem is inherent in every language community out there. We to unify
> the GUI standard. And we are a decade behind in development. (yes i am
> completely serious about all of this!).
> 
> 

Then we did find common ground.
-roger