Untangling pythonWin and IDLE Processes on XP Pro

[W. eWatson]

Terry Reedy wrote:
> W. eWatson wrote:
>>  From Diez above.
>> What does *NOT* work is writing a Tkinter-based app in idle, and to 
>> run it
>> *FROM INSIDE* idle. Instead, open your explorer and double-click on the
>> pyhton-file your app is in. That's all that there is to it.
>>
>> So this is the absolute truth? No wiggle room? One can never use a 
>> Tkinter program with IDLE, and execute it successfully. So IDLE 
>> doesn't issue a standard warning that says, "Get out of here with your 
>> Tkinter program, it will fail when you try to run it here. You have 
>> entered Tkinter hell. Good-bye."
> 
> Re-read my post about kids fighting to control a television.  Maybe they 
> work together, maybe they crash the TV.  Hard to predict.
> 
> ***ANY*** Python program that tries to grab and control the same 
> resources that TK does may conflict with it.  There is no way that IDLE 
> can have a list of, for instance, all event-grabbing mainloop programs.
> 
OK, enough tinkering with the code and others matters on my end trying to 
find a work around. Somehow after much successful use of IDLE's execution 
facility, I've stepped on an invisible banana peel. I think it's evident 
that I'm not going around this problem easily with the IDLE execution 
attempts, and that another solution is required.

First, I think somewhere up the thread someone suggested that Active 
pythonWin is not dependent upon Tk, correct? Therefore, it is immune from 
such problems, correct?

Second, maybe I missed it above, but when I posted the output from the 
program that showed the failure, was there anything that said, "IDLE 
problem" or would even give a clue that's the culprit?

Finally, we can probably agree that I can continue to use IDLE for editing 
and syntax checking, but to "guarantee" successful execution of the program, 
I can just double-click on the py file in my folder. Perhaps there is a 
better way than clicking on it in the folder. For example, putting it on the 
desktop. As I look at the folder, previous copies only differ by a digit, I 
can easily find myself executing an earlier version, differing as Dev4, to 
Dev5 at the end of each name.

Let me ask this. When I install Active Python, am I getting something beyond 
their interface? That is, does executing the code there result in using the 
same python interpreter that is used by IDLE? My use of their editor has 
been somewhat exasperating. It does not seem as friendly as the IDLE editor.

I still find it bizarre that the original creator of this program can spend 
months using IDLE to develop this program, and that I've spent maybe 10 days 
recently now adding to it without having much, if any, problem with IDLE and 
the programs execution within IDLE. I asked him almost a year ago what tool 
he used. IDLE, was the reply. Maybe it was really IDLE with no execution 
from inside IDLE. I'll ask him.

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