Python and Flaming Thunder

[Matthieu Brucher]

So does every other compiler like gcc or interpreters like Python. What is
your point ?

Matthieu

2008/5/13 Dave Parker <daveparker at flamingthunder.com>:

> >  Notice that I said "free software", not "*** FREE *** software !!!!
> > 1!" (that is, free as in freedom, not free as in beer). Read again my
> > answer, considering this.
>
> I misread your meaning.  In a sense, Flaming Thunder is even more free
> than "free software".  Flaming Thunder doesn't place any restrictions
> on how you use your source code or the executables you create.  There
> is no GNU license that you need to worry about.
>
> On May 13, 11:06 am, hdante <hda... at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 13, 12:24 pm, Dave Parker <davepar... at flamingthunder.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > >  The "Flaming Thunder" looks promising, but without being free
> > > > software, it's unlikely it will create a large developer community,
> > > > specially considering both free general purpose and scientific
> > > > programming languages.
> >
> > > Perhaps.  Flaming Thunder is only $19.95 per year for an individual
> > > (and even less per individual for site licenses), which is less than
> > > the cost of just one book on Python.
> >
> > > I think that many people will find that Flaming Thunder is easier to
> > > use and understand than Python -- so for many people the amount of
> > > time they save will be worth more than the cost of Flaming Thunder
> > > (unless, of course, their time is worth $0).
> >
> > > Also, several users have rewritten their Python programs in Flaming
> > > Thunder, and found that Flaming Thunder was 5 to 10 times faster
> > > (Flaming Thunder compiles to native executables).  So again, since
> > > many people value their time at more than $0, I think that many people
> > > will find that Flaming Thunder is worth $19.95 per year.
> >
> > > Plus, me getting paid to work on Flaming Thunder is far more
> > > motivating than me not getting paid to work on Python.  This weekend,
> > > Python users will still be debating how to fix awkwardnesses in the
> > > languages (such as FOR loops where you're just counting the loops and
> > > not referencing the loop variable) -- but Flaming Thunder users will
> > > be getting work done using the REPEAT n TIMES constructs that I'll be
> > > implementing.
> >
> > > Python has been around about 15 years, yet still has those
> > > awkwardnesses.  Flaming Thunder has been out less than 6 months and
> > > those awkwardnesses are already getting fixed.  The difference: I
> > > can't afford to ignore users.
> >
> > > But the future is one of the hardest things to predict, so we'll see.
> >
> > > On May 13, 8:34 am, hdante <hda... at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > On May 13, 10:58 am, Paul McGuire <pt... at austin.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > On May 13, 8:32 am, Dave Parker <davepar... at flamingthunder.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > Don't let yourself be irritated by castironpi
> >
> > > > > > I'm not the sort to get irritated by anyone.  There is value in
> all
> > > > > > interaction.
> >
> > > > > Not this interaction, I'm afraid.  What irritates *me* about
> > > > > castironpi is that he uses a chatterbot to clutter up the threads
> > > > > here.  If you go back to his postings from a year ago (and selected
> > > > > ones since), his comments are coherent and sensible.  These
> rambling
> > > > > stream-of-consciousness rants about t.v.'s and coffee are (I guess)
> > > > > his idea of a joke.  But they are certainly not worth your time in
> > > > > trying to respond to them.
> >
> > > > > -- Paul
> >
> > > >  I don't think castironpi so annoying that I should filter its
> > > > messages. It would be enough if he were better tuned. He is much
> > > > smarter than the emacs shrink, for example. :-P
> >
> > > >  The "Flaming Thunder" looks promising, but without being free
> > > > software, it's unlikely it will create a large developer community,
> > > > specially considering both free general purpose and scientific
> > > > programming languages.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> >  Notice that I said "free software", not "*** FREE *** software !!!!
> > 1!" (that is, free as in freedom, not free as in beer). Read again my
> > answer, considering this.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
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