morning in Python

[Ivan Illarionov]

On Sat, 17 May 2008 02:57:08 -0700, castironpi wrote:

> Full day later, I think it, to emphasize state, would prioritize
> context.  The reason for the huge ramble was, believe it or not,
> namespace conflict... as though any other states around here might nose
> in.  And thanks to 'inhahe' for coming back with the question.  ...Which
> would explain next move to 'prioritize context'. Context is a high
> priority for people.
> 
> I'm proposing to start on one on a computer.  The first things a
> computer 'knows' are the boot, keyboard, & mouse.  Yet on another scale,
> the first things it knows are BIOS, file system, and OS.  On still
> another, the only thing it knows are interruptions.  Knowledge is
> important to context.  (The scales are ram on disk on, ram on disk off,
> and ram off, which may tell of the currency they and their power are
> bought with.  Thence, we should be getting different values for lengths
> of time.)
> 
> (Furthermore, we're all on different longitudes -and- latitudes.)
> 
> Context comes from motion, perception, and composite perception
> (reperception e.a.o. memory).  There is some reason to believe that
> motion and sight are different senses, perhaps so with stationary sound
> (gatcha) and mobile sound too.  Do you go deaf of a tone after prolonged
> duration?  That makes computers valuable commodities*: they have a
> symbolic interface, which no other unlive objects have.  They have both
> mouse and keyboard.
> 
> *I'm sure there is a precision to wants: what magnitude of what types of
> action a person wants from a day and for a time-- what energy states
> they go to and from (note phone on come to and come from.)
> 
> Therefore, context should originate in mouse and keyboard.
> 
> Humans have symbolic know-how: knowledge of how to convey intent
> digitally, though it may be there is no interpolation of 'intent per
> mouse-or-key', even though people are prone to empathize with faces.
> However, if you start with a 'me' and a 'no', you can get pretty
> logical.
> 
> Intent per mouse-and-key isn't necessarily scalar, three-dimensional, or
> rationally dimensional (?), though they do have magnitudes per mass and
> volume.  The contingent of 'rationally dimensional' is having or
> beknowing/benouncing an orthonormal basis.  Incidentally, '''orthography
> of a language specifies the correct way of using a specific writing
> system to write the language. .. Orthography is derived from Greek ὀρθός
> orthós ("correct") and γράφειν gráphein ("to write").''' - wikipedia.
> 
> Further incidentally, context and state may have more important in
> common than priority and price: privacy and safety are involved ex
> hypothesi.  Incidentally = ...
> 
> It is not clear that the first (cheapest best) human-computer language
> is a computer language, though if two were orthonormal in comparison to
> life, Python's fine.  Not my first.
> 
> In privacy concerns, it is not clear that duals aren't primitives to
> humans.  What's a brain primitive?  Lol: what is a primitive brain?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 16, 10:58 am, "inhahe" <inh... at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm not an expert in this but what does it mean to emphasize state?  It
>> seems the opposite of that would be a) functional programming, and b)
>> passing parameters instead of using global or relatively local
>> variables. And maybe c) coroutines (generators as implemented in
>> Python), although perhaps coroutines could be said to emphasize state
>> inasmuch as they go out of their way to capture, objectify and reuse it
>> (Stackless' microthreads, even moreso).  And Python seems to be
>> well-noted for implementing some functional programming methodology,
>> and as for passing parameters it's just as object-oriented as the rest
>> of them.
>>
>> But as I said, I'm not an expert, so let me know if I've gone astray..
>>
>>
>>
>> > I have a proposition to ask you all: Python emphasizes state.  Is it
>> > true?- Hide quoted text -
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Castironpi,

I love you! You remind me of all the kittens and puuppies I had when I 
was a child.

I #define this. Hope your database could give us something funny again.

-- Ivan