Java or C++?

[Bob Martin]

in 342436 20080414 160208 =?UTF-8?B?R3J6ZWdvcnogU8WCb2Rrb3dpY3o=?= <jergosh at wp.pl> wrote:
>> Hello, I was hoping to get some opinions on a subject. I've been
>> programming Python for almost two years now. Recently I learned Perl,
>> but frankly I'm not very comfortable with it. Now I want to move on
>> two either Java or C++, but I'm not sure which. Which one do you think
>> is a softer transition for a Python programmer? Which one do you think
>> will educate me the best?
>>
>I can't say from personal experience (it was C, C++, then Python for me)
>but I think you'll find Java very annoying, especially if you value
>Python for elegance. Both C++ and Java have different philosophy than
>Python, but C++ is better designed and more flexible.

You must be joking - better designed?  C++ was a botch to an already poor
language.  

Personally I find Java very satisfying to write.