Slightly OT: Why all the spam?

Tue May 22 20:03:41 EDT 2007

"Michael L Torrie" <torriem at chem.byu.edu> wrote in message 
news:1179848997.22230.4.camel at contra.chem.byu.edu...
| On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 09:08 +0200, bryan rasmussen wrote:
| > Well two things I would suppose:
| >
| > 1. relative popularity and volume of the group leads spammers to put
| > more resources towards spamming the group.
| >
| > 2. I seem to remember that python-list is also a usenet group?
| > non-moderated, meaning it is tough to ban people?
| >
| > Actually, it would be nice to know if anybody has any good filters
| > worked up that will work in Gmail for reading python-list.
|
| It appears that people using nntp to read this list aren't seeing the
| spam because the moderators expire the messages as they find them.
| However, by then the messages have already hit the mailman gateway.
| Thus you may want to consider reading c.l.p via nntp when at work.
|
| Lately all the spams contain a url to a certain site, so you can
| probably procmail filter based on that.  The spam does not appear to be
| random-bot generated, but targeted spam by a single person or entity.
| Which makes it easier to filter out.

I am getting lots of it reading via gmane.  It is not clear to me from the 
headers for some whether the spam is being injected via gmane or is being 
passed thru the mailing lists, which is supposed to block such (I thought). 
Anyone clear for this one?

Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail
From: Dicky.Links5 at gmail.com
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.python.general
Subject: ^?  Ron Jeremeys Dick Gets Longer!
Date: 21 May 2007 22:17:04 -0700
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I have sent notices to groups_abuse at google.com and get no response and spam 
continues from same account.  I am wondering if google thinks it is too big 
to be punished for being a spam source.

tjr