Do other Python GUI toolkits require this?

[Sampson, David]

 I don't know how this whole things started, 

But it is funny on both sides. And hilarious from the outside. It sounds
like university Banter really. And who can avoid getting their 2 cents
in. Honestly

And people say computers are all about science. You guys prove that we
are all as much tech geeks and semantic geeks.

>From my own experiential education background, and currently trying to
learn python I would say my exposure to python as a scripting language
is a logical extension to my knowledge of DOS and BASH scripting so in
that respect I am on a shallow learning curve. That is little effort
(say 5 on the X axis) over a given time (say 10 y). 

Now, my goal is to take what I had learn about VB6 over the last number
of months to modify a chunk of in-house software My learning curve was
steeper. That is I had the same amount of time (10 y) but I had to put
in some more effort, so a moderate curve using 10 X as my peak, or point
where I plateau.

However where I as a newbie am having a hard time is programming a GUI
and full application using python (hence why I saw the topic), and
understanding OOP. Therefore right now I feel as though I am on a steep
learning curve. So maybe 20 or 30 on the X and I still have the same
amount of time.

To further support this I took the first result of google (of course the
worlds most authoritative resource on randomness) and went to this BLOG
(worlds best phenomena of random and unsubstantiated opinions).
http://createwhatmattersmost.blogspot.com/2006/10/learning-curve-explain
ed.html

And found this

I guess I'm approaching the "knee" of the learning curve, that magical
transition point on the learning at which you begin to generate results
far out of proportion to time and energy expended.

This tells me my understanding is the common accepted one of X= Effort,
Y= time or productivity  ... But really productivity is a function of
time.


C'mon now folks, if this is university banter the least I should see is
some referencing.

Thanks for demonstrating my own lack of will power and propensity to
engage in both of your OCB.

Now I must get back to my steep learning curve or else I will be back on
the street.

Cheers


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From: python-list-bounces+dsampson=nrcan.gc.ca at python.org
[mailto:python-list-bounces+dsampson=nrcan.gc.ca at python.org] On Behalf
Of Steve Holden
Sent: April 19, 2007 08:25
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Subject: Re: Do other Python GUI toolkits require this?

Antoon Pardon wrote:
> On 2007-04-19, Steve Holden <steve at holdenweb.com> wrote:
>> Michael Bentley wrote:
>>> On Apr 19, 2007, at 4:11 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2007-04-19, Michael Bentley <michael at jedimindworks.com> wrote:
>> [...]  The
>>>>> learning curve is rather steep IMO, but worth it.
>>>> Just a throw in remark, that  you may ignore if you wish, but a 
>>>> steep learning curve means that the subject is easily familiarized 
>>>> and that the learning period is short.
>>>>
>>>> You seem to use it as if it is the opposite.
>>> Mathematical absurdities aside, it's the common usage -- but perhaps

>>> you knew that.
>>>
>>>
>> Perhaps in Belgium they prefer climbing mountains over walking up and

>> down gentle hills? Or possibly they will simply pick any nit that is 
>> carelessly left within range?
> 
> If it is just a nit, why don't you ignore my remark as I suggested?
> 
Because I suffer from the quixotic urge to help stamp out obsessive
compulsive behavior on c.l.py? This is self-defeating, of course, since
it makes me appear obsessive compulsive in my own right ...

> Now suppose I give you a graph that shows you how different people are

> making progress. Would you prefer the rather flat curves instead of 
> the steep curves because the latter gives you the idea of someone 
> having to conquer huge obstacles or would you choose the steep curve 
> because they show you someone is getting results fast?
> 
Suppose I should you a hill you have to climb? Would you rather don
mountain boots and crampons to climb 3,000 feet up a vertical cliff or
would you rather amble up, say, Ben Lomond with the other tourists?

Clearly you have no wish to bow before common usage. be careful this
doesn't put you in a universe with only one inhabitant. We all have to
get along.

obsessive-compulsive-ly y'rs  - steve
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