How to choose the right GUI toolkit ?

[John Henry]

Upon closer look, the walkthrough did say:

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from PythonCard import model

Change that so it says:

from PythonCard import dialog, model

Save the code.
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So, it works.



John Henry wrote:
> Bill Maxwell wrote:
> > On 8 Nov 2006 11:49:07 -0800, "John Henry" <john106henry at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >John Salerno wrote:
> > >> Dan Lenski wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > So, is there another toolkit I should be looking at?
> > >>
> > >> I highly recommend wxPython. It's very mature, full-featured, and
> > >> portable, and fairly easy to learn as well. I can't really compare it to
> > >> other toolkits (not having used any of them, except Tkinter), but it's
> > >> definitely one of the most popular and well-supported ones out there.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.wxpython.org/
> > >
> > >I highly recommend that you try PythonCard (which sits on top of
> > >wxPython).  You can get productive very very quickly.  Take a look at:
> > >
> > >http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/walkthrough1.html
> >
> >
> > I took a brief look at PythonCard almost a year ago and got discouraged
> > by what I found, so I stopped looking at it.  I've inserted my notes
> > from back then, below.  Does anybody know if these things have been
> > fixed in the latest release?
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > =====================================================================
> > My notes from Fri Dec-23-2005:
> >
> > This is a list of gripes I have while trying to learn about PythonCard.
> > I'm trying to investigate various GUI builders for Python, and
> > PythonCard looks promising, but a lot of things are getting in the way.
> >
> > I installed yesterday, using this installer:
> > PythonCard-0.8.1.FIXED.win32.exe
> >
> > A)  The very first example in the tutorial is wrong!
> >
> > 	On this page:  http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/documentation.html
> > 	When you follow this link to try something for the very first time:
> >
> > 		Getting Started in PythonCard by Dan Shafer:
> > 			http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/walkthrough1.html
> >
> > 	You quickly see that the minimal.py example doesn't even contain
> > this line, even though the tutorial refers to it:
> >
>
> I am not sure which one you are referring to but in the
> PythonCard\samples\minimal, you will find a minimal.py that says:
>
> #!/usr/bin/python
>
> """
> __version__ = "$Revision: 1.8 $"
> __date__ = "$Date: 2005/12/17 15:20:02 $"
> """
>
> from PythonCard import model
>
>
> class Minimal(model.Background):
>     def on_menuFileAbout_select(self, event):
>         pass
>
> if __name__ == '__main__':
>     app = model.Application(Minimal)
>     app.MainLoop()
>
>
>
> > 		def on_menuFileAbout_select(self, event):
> >
> > 	And, of course, if you replace the word "pass" with this, as
> > instructed:
> >
> > 		result = dialog.alertDialog(self, 'It works!', 'Showing Off')
> >
> > 	it won't run, because the existing "pass" line isn't inside a def
> > inside of a class.
> >
>
> No, it didn't work because the author forgot to mention that you have
> to do a:
>
> from PythonCard import model, dialog
>
> instead of just:
>
> from PythonCard import model
>
> I just tried it and it works.
>
> >
> > B)  Is the Notebook widget really supported?
> >
> > 	In the installed file "changelog.txt" (gets installed as part of
> > PythonCard installation), it says:
> >
> > 		"added Notebook component, PageBackground, and testNotebook
> >  		sample"
> >
> > 	But, the testNotebook sample is nowhere to be found.
> >
>
> I haven't come across a need to use Notebook and so I can not say for
> sure.  Looking at notebook.py, it appears to be just a simple wrapper
> on top of the wxWindow notebook.  I would encourage you to post a
> message to the mailing list and ask there.
>
>
> > 	I looked lots of places, including the main SourceForge web site,
> > and on the wiki, here:
> >
> > 		http://wiki.wxpython.org/index.cgi/PythonCard
> >
> > 	Both the main website and the wiki seem way out of date, and the
> > latest dates I could find on both of them are sometime in 2004.
> >
>
> Yes, sometime around 2004, the website updating stopped.   Fortunately,
> development didn't.  There are quite a number of new things since then:
> new resource editor (now call layout Editor, standalone exe creator,
> and so forth).  I even learn that a new sizer handler is in the work.
>
> Not saying that there are 10 programmers working 7/24 on it.  It *is*
> an Open Source project nevertheless.   Nobody gets paid for doing it.
>  But there are development work going on.
>
>
> > 	Finally, by following the mailing list archive link on the main
> > website, I managed to find a reference to the notebook component on the
> > ASPN site, where some guy named Brian wonders about the same thing as
> > me, concerning the availability of the notebook component:
> >
> > 		http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/pythoncard/2536825
> >
> > 	and, that message led me here:
> >
> > 		http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pythoncard/1060
> >
> > 	where Kevin Altis admits that he forgot to include it in the 0.8.1
> > release!  At least he provides a way to download it separately.  But,
> > gheesh, this is pretty poor for a new user.  I was interested in using
> > the notebook component right away, because I looked at the wxGlade
> > tutorial before looking at PythonPage, and they use the notebook
> > component in their example (and I decided I really want to use the
> > component).
> >
> > 	To add insult to injury, after you download the zip file with the
> > testNotebook stuff, the readme file says this:
> >
> > 		"Until we have a Notebook integrated into some of the other
> > samples or tools this will serve as a basic test app, but I don't expect
> > to include it in releases."
> >
>
>
> As with all Open Source projects, your mileage differs.   PythonCard
> does what *I* need to get done - and allowed me to get it done in a
> *hurry*.  May be you really need Notebook and may be it's true that
> Notebook really doesn't work, I don't know.   But if you managed to get
> it working, write it up and get it included.  That's what Open Source
> Projects are all about.
>
>
> > C)  Are the websites being maintained?
>
>
> It appears that the maintainer of the web site stopped updating it
> since late 2004.  I don't know why.   May be he's been busy.  May be he
> got mad.  I don't know.   All I know is that I have been very
> productive with what I need to get done (and earned a happy living with
> the code I created) and I am very grateful to the people that worked on
> it - past and present.
>
> I am not a "professional programmer" and so I probably can't contribute
> to the development effort itself.   However, I've gotten pretty good in
> using most of the package (other then Notebook, I admit).  So, if you
> have any specific questions, please post it to the PythonCard list and
> I'll try to help if I can.
> 
> Cheers.