Why not just show the out-of-range index?

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Carsten Haese wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 01:04 -0800, Russ wrote:
> > Robert Kern wrote:
> >
> > > Nothing is going to happen until you do one of these two things. Being more rude
> > > (and yes, you are being incredibly rude and insulting) won't move things along.
> >
> > I re-read the thread, and I don't see anywhere where I was rude
>
> Please allow me to break it down for you:
>
> Your first reply on this thread, or second message, said:
>
> """
> Now, that [submitting a patch that fixes the problem] would be rather
> silly. I would have to familiarize myself
> with the code for the Python interpreter, then send a patch to the
> maintainers (and hope they notice it in their inboxes), while the
> maintainers themselves could probably "fix" the problem in two minutes
> flat. No thanks!
>
> My suggestion is trivial to implement and would benefit every Python
> programmer (even if only slightly), so I don't think it is too much to
> ask for.
> """
>
> You may not have meant this to be rude, but it does come off as rude and
> arrogant, and I'll explain to you why: In your first post you stated
> that the feature seems like a no-brainer to you. That implies to the
> reader that you might have the necessary skill to implement the feature
> yourself, hence Robert's suggestion to submit a patch was, in the
> context you gave yourself, neither unreasonable nor silly. I can see how
> your calling a reasonable suggestion by a valuable community member
> "silly" would be construed as rude and arrogant.

Thanks for explaining why the OP was rude.  Having been
reading and listening to english for only a few decades
probably, I am sure the OP (and me too!) appreciates your
explanation of rudeness.  It was really hard for me to see it
until you explained it so well.  The great thing about c.l.p. is
how much one learns about non-Python things here.
(oops, I hope I wasn't rude by saying there were non-Python
things?  I didn't mean to diminish Python in any way.)

Russ,
Please rememer that learning Python is not done overnight --
there are many different levels of knowlage and only the
most elite Pythonists have reached True Understanding.

Since there are many things you don't understand, it is
best you (and me too!) do not make suggrestions publically.
Infidels could read them and inplying that Python is not
perfect and you will undermine the spritual growth of
many other newbies..  Such dangerous sugggestions
should be made privately at the alter of Sourceforge, with
a lot of deep self-reflection and piety.

Until you achive greater understanding it is best if in public
you make sure that you write with the following in mind:
Python is perfect
Perl sucks
Static typing sucks
Python is faster than C
Quoting frequently from the holy Zen of Python is also
helpful.  Please remember that many regulars here are
members of the holy priesthood because they have spent
many years studying the Python scriptures.  Be as circumspect
in addressing them as you would be a medival knight or
Japanese samurai.  Only by following their guidance with
complete devoutness and faith will you be able to achive
the deepest level of Python appreciation.

Hope this helps.