OT: p-gal website

ajaksu ajaksu at gmail.com
Thu Aug 17 09:27:28 EDT 2006


John Bokma wrote:
> "ajaksu" <ajaksu at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Don't :)
> > Even Firefox developers will tell you to avoid this. Develop for
> > standards compliant browsers (including Firefox) by testing against
> > the standards. Neither your HTML or CSS pass validation, both due to
> > minor, easy-to-fix issues.
>
> If you actually read those "standards" you will know that the documents
> itself are called Recommendations or Working drafts. Why someone
> recommends to follow documentation but isn't even able to name them as
> they are named in the documentation itself is beyond me.

Hi John, sorry about the delay (been offline for a couple of days).

First I'd like to point out that I didn't mean to be rude or attack
Paolo, I invested some time trying to diagnose the problems with his
site and in fact I'm kinda working for him this morning :)

Then, I'd ask you to read his post, as it was the first use of
standard: "standard compliance problem".

And to answer your question, I recommend to follow standards because
that's how I call the mixed bag of Recommendations, some of which are
also Specifications, allowing for the inclusion of both significant
Standards and standards. I guess I must've been bitten by the buzzword
bug, sorry it that offends you. But I'm not the only one (TM).

> This is the W3C Markup Validation Service, a free service that checks Web
> documents in formats like HTML and XHTML for conformance to W3C
> Recommendations and other standards.
> http://validator.w3.org/
This seems to imply that W3C considers Recommendations to be standards
(sorry if I'm mistaken, my English is not that good).

> Support for open Web standards in Firefox ensures you can get the most
> out of this emerging class of Web-based tools.
> http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/
I guess this is why we were using that word, given the Firefox context.

So I might be "able to name them as they are named in the
documentation(sic) itself", but I'd rather try to help than offer
qwerty sacrifices to the Holy Dictionary and His trolly followers ;)

Daniel

> The Web Standards Project is a grassroots coalition fighting for standards
> which ensure simple, affordable access to web technologies for all.
> http://www.webstandards.org/

> While Opera is well capable of showing standards-compliant pages correctly,
> not all web pages are compliant.
> http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/doctype/

> (A)uthors are forced to choose between writing valid, standards-compliant
> documents and providing content that renders properly on the browsers of
> most visitors.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHTML

> Although the rise of web standards has done much to alleviate the plight of
> web developers, browsers may still have sharply different opinions on one
> bit of CSS or JavaScript.
> http://www.quirksmode.org/browsers/intro.html

> Standard
> A specification for hardware or software that is either widely used and
> accepted (de facto) or is sanctioned by a standards organization (de jure).
> http://www.answers.com/standard&r=67




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