Looking for a language/framework

[Azolex]

Alex Martelli wrote:
> Jeffrey Froman <jeffrey at fro.man> wrote:
> 
>> Alex Martelli wrote:
>>
>>> I've never seen an "object-relational mapping" (technical
>>> term for cruft that tries to avoid people having to learn and use SQL)
>>> which doesn't drive me into a murderous, foam-at-mouth rage in a very
>>> short time -- I WANT my SQL, I LOVE SQL, it's WAY more powerful
>>> and suitable for access to data than all those simulated "OO DB" people
>>> lay on top of it
>> How refreshing to discover I'm not the only person on earth who feels this
>> way.
> 
> Hey, there's two of us, if this was Italy we could found a new political
> party!-)

Me too - I rather prefer using SQL to ORMs, *but* my basic reason is 
that I find it ridiculous for python ORMs to claim they lower sql/python 
impedance while they lead away from the python construct that's the 
obvious fit in the role of sql representative : I mean generator 
expressions.

And OK, generator expressions aren't quite as powerful as SQL, but... 
well, maybe they can yet be perfected.