Fredrik Lundh

Robert Kern rkern at ucsd.edu
Mon May 9 02:18:50 EDT 2005


D H wrote:
> Robert Kern wrote:
> 
>>It's called Daily Python-URL not Daily Python-Like-Languages-URL. *That* 
>>explains it.
> 
> google for logix site:pythonware.com  He's announced plenty non-python 
> stuff that is of interest to python users, including plenty of marketing 
> for his own software.

Logix, though a language in its own right, is built on top of Python.

The Daily Python-URL isn't obligated to link to *anything*.

>  > It's not like Pythonware is hiding its relationship.
> 
> It hides any mention that Fredrik Lundh is behind it, which is deceitful 
> when he posts any smidgeon of praise his software gets, not admitting he 
> makes his income off support fees for that same software.

I think that reasonable people can draw a line. I would welcome more 
disclosure, however.

> He can try to smear me all he wants if he really thinks that will help 
> his business.

If he thinks that smearing you is going to help his business, he's 
sillier than I thought.

>>Funny you should mention that article since I showed that Fredrik's 
>>benchmarks were correctly done (if not diligently-reported) while Uche's 
>>were wrong on both marks.
>>
>>http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/cs_msg/51158
> 
> Funny how you link to your own post out of context.  You must have not 
> listened to any of the other comments.

Oh, I read all of them. No one has disputed my results either there or 
through email. Yes, Fredrik was out of line accusing of Uche of running 
benchmarks on different machines, but Uche was out of line with his 
entire article and never explained the anomalous results either.

I posted the link alone because, at the time, I had forgotten that I had 
a GreaseMonkey script installed that forwards to the print-friendly page 
without comments. I didn't realize what was going on until after I posted.

>>Oy, my head hurts. Take it off-list, both of you. The rest of us don't 
>>care about your bickering.
> 
> Yet again someone bitches about a thread right after they hypocritically 
> throw their own little darts into the mix.

Yes, you're right, and I apologize. But personal bickering like 
Fredrik's post and the line of yours that you snipped do belong 
off-list. And the "If he thinks that smearing..." line, too, but since 
I'm in for a penny...

-- 
Robert Kern
rkern at ucsd.edu

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  Are the graves of dreams allowed to die."
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