Xah Lee's Unixism

jmfbahciv at aol.com jmfbahciv at aol.com
Wed Sep 8 07:32:37 EDT 2004


In article <p0nkhc.m6j.ln at via.reistad.priv.no>,
   Morten Reistad <firstname at lastname.pr1v.n0> wrote:
>In article <413daee5$0$6932$61fed72c at news.rcn.com>,  <jmfbahciv at aol.com> 
wrote:
>>In article <1s4ihc.4i4.ln at via.reistad.priv.no>,
>>   Morten Reistad <firstname at lastname.pr1v.n0> wrote:
>>>In article <413c5b9c$0$19705$61fed72c at news.rcn.com>,
>>> <jmfbahciv at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>In article <rv1hhc.mtv2.ln at via.reistad.priv.no>,
>>>>   Morten Reistad <firstname at lastname.pr1v.n0> wrote:
>>>
>>>1995 was the year everyone and Bill Gates discovered the Internet
>>>existed; and wanted in on the deal. Suddenly everyone needed Internet
>>>solutions. 
>>
>>I knew the Internet existed when I started reading the ads in the
>>WSJ and they had this strange arrangement of characters that 
>>began with www.  At first, there were only a few.  _One_ year
>>later there were  lot.  Less than two years later, everybody had
>>one.  I watch ads to foretell trends.
>
>I knew we had succeeded in making the Internet mainstream when 
>I saw that the plane I was about to board had the URL I made for
>them written along the entire plane in 2 meter high letters. 

<GRIN>  Oh, neat.  That must have been a unique feeling of
accomplishment.

>
>And we had to do a hard sell for the Internet bit. 2 years later more
>than 50% of their tickets were sold over the Internet.

I don't think we've even seen the beginning.

>
>>>>Since TCP/IP was in the 90s, I couldn't have heard about it
>>>>over the wall (I think I stopped working in 1987).  I could
>>>>swear that cybercurd meant something.
>>>>
>>>>ISTR, the -20 types yakking about it.
>>>
>>>TCP/IP was launched in 1982, and the Internet (or the Arpanet, rather)
>>>converted Jan 1st 1983; with final NCP service turned off everywhere
>>>by mid march 1983.
>>
>>Aha!  Whew!  Then my memory isn't completely gone.  If it was
>>launched in 1982, then they had to have been yakking about it
>>in 1980 and 1981. 
>
>The period 1978-1982 was the intense design phase of the infrastructure
>of the modern Internet. It would have been on the mind of IT engineers
>worldwide.
>
>>>Tops20 has an IP package; but it was pretty rudimentary in version 4, 
>>>and not quite complete even by those standards even in version 7.
>>
>>Version 4 and version 7 were way after 1980.
>
>Yep, but it was in version 4 there was real TCP/IP support. ISTR there
>was a retrofit to a late version 3; but that was made after V4 was out.
>This version more or less depended on other boxes, just like a PC does
>today. "Real" TCP/IP came out in V7 (or possibly late V6. I more or
>less skipped the entire V6 of Tops20). 

TOPS-20 development was not known for their innovation acclerity.

/BAH

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