Xah Lee's Unixism
jmfbahciv at aol.com
jmfbahciv at aol.com
Sun Sep 12 09:32:50 EDT 2004
In article <87zn3v7ekc.fsf at p4.internal>,
Bulent Murtezaoglu <bm at acm.org> wrote:
>>>>>> "jmf" == jmfbahciv <jmfbahciv at aol.com> writes:
> jmf> Grant Edwards <grante at visi.com> wrote:
> >> ... Bush thinks he's entitled
> >> to declare anybody and everybody an "enemy combatant" and lock
> >> them up in secret forever.
>
> jmf> Would rather he do like Italy? They are letting them go.
> jmf> Then these released people go blow up something else. [...]
>
>Why are those the only two choices? Do you think people turn into
>bomb-wielding terrorists by feat of mere suspicion?
Oh, sigh! [emoticon begins to hit head against wall because
it feels better]
>
>I don't think the US abuses the 'enemy combatant' device as much as we
>fear, yet.
Hint..the US isn't abusing enemy combatants.
> ... But if the people in the US are convinced that the choice is
>between getting blown up and secret detentions w/o judicial oversight
>then it will get far worse than we fear.
WHAT SECRET DETENTIONS?
>
>I am beginning to think the US gov't and populace alike might be
>believing the "they hate us for our freedoms" line and trying to get rid
>of the said freedoms in the hope that it will appease the terrorists.
Now there you actually made a point, but not the one you think you
did.
>
>Look, what is to prevent your government from putting cuffs on me and
>shipping me off to a dungeon the next time I am in the US because of
>the sentence above?
Too many people coming in. As long as you don't stand up and
shout bomb or make a fool of yourself going through customs
and fill out the paperwork without trying to be a smartass,
I don't see people who are already overworked and stretched
thin bothering with you.
> .. Would I see a judge? Lawyer?
I don't know. I had understood that, if you didn't get
through customs, you were put back on a plane out of the
country.
> ... Would anybody even
>know?
Yes. Lots of people.
> ..Are you guys truly scared enough to sanction this kind of behaviour
>from your gov't?
If you are a terrorist with the intent to wreak death and
destruction in this country, I sure as hell hope somebody
doesn't let you in.
/BAH
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