i am going to get crazy!!!

[PyProg]

Have you taken a look at wxPython? --> http://www.wxpython.org/download.php

I don't know a lot about it, because I'm a 'vim' type of guy, but it 
seems to me that
their 'PyShell' utility might be to your liking.

Regards ... PyProg

andresm wrote:

>I cant believe there is no single decent open source for python, all
>them miss some of the most core features an ide should have, i just
>cant believe this!!! I have been looking for a decent ide for one
>weak, i have tried all of them, all. the only kick ass one is ipython,
>but thats a shell that shows how an ide should be.
>
> I come from a java background using eclipse, netbeans,intellij,etc
>and i realy liked to learn python =( , java sucks for tons of reasons,
>but i dont now what to do the most important feature of an ide is
>syntax coloring and "full code completion suport".
>
> For example if i am learning how to use the sys module in my code and
>while i am writing like :
>
>      sys . 
>
>   A list should appear showing me all the attributes of the module or
>class : variables,locals,globals,builtins,etc  and when i focus on one
>item for example " setprofile " method the documentation of the method
>should appear in another popup , that way i can learn  the libraries
>fast and in an interactive way. Is all i want in an ide ALL IDES have
>this. Why python ones dont ?  in spe you get everything that is in the
>namespace,not just the object before the dot triger,same in eric3, in
>komodo you get just the functions, no docs.
>
> Whats wrong with my common sense?  all ides for php,java,c have this
>feature , is all i want to be able to program fast =( .
>
> But i have to alt-tab to konsole to the ipython shell, type help(sys)
>, find the doc and info i need and go back to the editor again, is
>like 20 seconds comparing to 1 with code completion suport.
>
> How do you guys program without a feature like this? that is the only
>reason i need an ide,  how do you remember all the methods names,
>parameters , attributes , classes, behavior while coding with an ide
>not suporting this tools? i wont memorize all of them =( is
>contraproducent if a tool can help, not to mention when learing new
>libraries, memorize again? or take 10 seconds every time you dont
>remember something to take the time to look into it?  What should i
>do? T_T
>  
>