How can I call a dll "inside" another process?

Nomad nomad*** at ***freemail.absa.co.za
Mon Feb 24 16:26:59 EST 2003


On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:38:17 GMT, Alex Martelli <aleax at aleax.it>
wrote:

>Nomad wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:28:17 +0100, Alex Martelli <aleaxit at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>Nomad wrote:
>>>   ...
>>>>>Jeffrey Richter, Advanced Windows, Third Edition (Microsoft Press, 1997,
>>>>>ISBN 1- 572-31548-2)
>>>   ...
>>>> Thanks for the reference, but getting hold of a copy in SA might be
>>>> tough :-(
>>>
>>>Why ever?  Amazon will be overjoyed to send you one (in exchange for
>>>due monetary consideration), I'm sure...
>> 
>> You haven't looked at the exchange rate lately have you ;-)  In
>> relative terms it would likely cost about 5-6 times what it costs in
>
>According to http://www.apesma.asn.au/newsviews/misc/big_mac_index.htm
>a graduate engineer in SA would make 90,000 Rand, versus one in Italy
>making 20,200 EUR -- which means (with a Big Mac costing 9.7 Rand there
>and 2.3 EUR here) that a graduate engineer must work for 14.2 minutes
>to purchase a Big Mac here, vs 13.2 minutes in South Africa (compare
>with 7.0 minutes in the US and 7.8 in Japan).  So, PPP-wise, we're
>closer to each other than to the really rich countries.  Still, the
>exchange rate is 8.76 Rand/EUR, so, for purchases in the US, the
>purchasing power of South African graduate engineers would seem to
>be about half as much as that of Italian ones (NOT 5 or 6 times
>though!).  Assuming you're getting paid for working on Windows (I
>don't see why anybody would choose to do advanced system programming
>for it otherwise, honestly), it's still no big deal.

Nice idea, but inaccurate in places I'm afraid.

Before I go on, I'd first like to say that while I'm a graduate, I'm
not and engineer but a zoologist.  The reasons why I'm looking into
RPC are for a personal project that I'm working on -- not quite
"hobbyist", but maybe only a couple of steps up from there.  The work
I do is biological research, and I'll be lucky if I take home more
than R20,000 this year (and there is currently a dispute about that
R20,000 too, which is part of the reason why I'm getting more into
programming and IT).

Anyway, that aside for now, a Big Mac AFAICR is going to be closer to
about R13 (its been a while since I was in McDonalds, but the "value
meal" number one -- Mac, Fries, and a Coke -- is about R23, and the
drink and fries aren't going to be more than the burger itself), so in
fact, it'll take me (given the gods favour for my bursary ;-) closer
to 80 minutes to earn enough for a Big Mac.

>> the 'States and Europe, maybe even more with import duty added on top.
>> Then there's postage aswell.
>
>Why would postage or import duty from the US to SA be any more
>onerous than to the EU?

You have to think inside the context of a third-world government and
their business partners.

They like to screw everybody as much as possible to line their back
pockets.  That's just the way it is.  For an idea of how this works, a
standard computer book, ranging from $39.95 to $49.95 as many of them
are, when converted to Rand _should_ be between R360 - R450 (at an
exchange rate of 8.20 with 10% added for good measure).  However, if
you go into a highstreet bookshop, or a specialist book retailer,
you'll easily be looking at between R700 - R1000 for those
publications.

It doesn't seem fair does it, but that's just the way it is over here.

Hell, a copy of "Linux Magazine" will set you back over R110 these
days, even thought the exchange rate has been much more favourable
lately.  That's why the internet is such as great resource for us
folks down here, but searching is tough from home, as the 'phone bill
quickly adds up...

>> Unfortunately it looks like I'll have to spend a week on Google
>
>Try focusing on MSDN, it's likeliest to have Microsoft exoterica.

Thanks for the tip, I have had a look through MSDN, but the example
wasn't too great from what I glanced over.  I'll have another look
though.

>> (checking _every_ link just in case).  I've already checked all the
>> university and municiple libraries -- the varsity libs don't have it,
>> and you don't even want to know what the local libs response was...
>> 
>> Thanks anyway, I'll look for a copy when I'm next in the UK (I'm sure
>> it'll come in handy for other stuff too).
>
>It's for advanced system programming on Windows.  And with UK prices
>as fiercely high as they are, I have my doubts you'll buy it more
>cheaply there than from (e.g.) Amazon (or other US online bookstores
>with their typically generous discount policies).  Up to you, though!
>
>It "comes in handy" for advanced systems programming on Windows, and
>for that only.  But for that purpose it's an excellent book.

Maybe I'll give it a skip then.  I'm spending more and more time in
debian these days, and money aside, I'll never use XP unless I'm
forced to, and the idea of palladium scares the hell out of me, so I
don't think M$ and I have too great a future toegther anyway.

Thanks for all the info Alex, but I guess we've drifted pretty far OT,
so I'll leave it at that.

Cheers.

-- 
Nomad

Wondering of the vast emptyness of the 'net
in search of something cool.




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