Java or C++ (Benchmarking)

[phil hunt]

On Thu, 10 May 2001 16:43:42 +0200, James Kanze <James.Kanze at dresdner-bank.com> wrote:
>Jon Skeet wrote:
>
>> > That amounts to the same thing, IMO. Java has a "way of doing
>> > things", i.e. to use it essectively you have to bowe down to the
>> > Gospel According To Gosling about the One True Way to write code.
>> > That's why I call it a "bondage and discipline" language. Pascal
>> > is like this too. C and C++ don't have this philosophy, IMO.
>
>> No - which means people write code any which way, extend the
>> language all over the place and end up with code which is very hard
>> for other people to maintain after they've moved on.
>
>Right.
>
>Java is a language.  It is a language which IMHO lacks a couple of
>essential features for robust programming, like programming by
>contract, or a good model of separate compilation.  But it is a
>complete language; Java is Java.
>
>C++ is a tool kit from which you construct your own language.  You can
>construct some very good languages from C++.  And it is exceptionally
>easy to construct some very bad ones.  The good languages that you
>construct beat Java hands down in any real environment.  But you
>always have the problem you just mentionned; anyone new on the project
>must learn the language.  In a well run, disciplined shop, this isn't
>a problem, but how many shops are well run and disciplined?

To turn the question round: in a badly-run undisciplined shop, how
many programming languages will ensure the production of good code.
I'd say none.

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